What did you do today?

[Black walnut]

Yes, a metal lathe. Mostly to make specialized tooling for my cast bullet benchrest habit. Figured I would use a benchtop for a while before biting the bullet, or err pulling the trigger on a large one big enough for barrel work.

[dbhost]

I did an oil change.... on my 29 gallon air compressor. I mention this as a PSA....

Folks, if you have oil lubricated air compressors, they need periodic oil changes. I honestly do not know the interval, but the oil in mine was getting visibly dark, so I figured it was time...

I need to do an oil change to the 8 gallon compressor next, and then I can take the waste oil in to be recycled...

Spent a little bit of time with shop cleanup. I need to purge a LOT of the old 4" DWV dust collection ducting and fittings.

[leehljp]

Ordered this lathe yesterday.

What are you going to make? Looking forward to seeing what you create!

[dbhost]

Is the link correct? Did you order a mini metal lathe?

[Black walnut]

Ordered this lathe yesterday.

[capncarl]

I finally did something that I saw I I would never do… I purposefully bought Chinese mfg’d tires. Backstory… the tires on my F150, 16’ trailer, and boat trailer all have gone past their useful life and I have had failures due to age on the truck and boat trailer. I decided that it was a waste of money to buy high dollar high mileage Michelin tires for a truck that will only get half the life out of a tire before it becomes unsafe or fails due or age. I purchased Greenball truck tires from a local Goodyear tire store. About half the price as comparable tires, and ordered tires online through Walmart for the 2 trailers and 1 lawnmower. Way lots more cheaper, and seem to be a well made tire. The lawnmower tires cost as much for 4 tires as 1 tire cost! The Greenball tires on the F150 ride as well as the Michelin x radial does and are quieter.

[LCHIEN]

You may be gone by the time I write this, but...
Despite your observation that nothing happened there was quite a lengthy discussion behind the scenes - there were 29 posts in the moderator forum on this topic as a result of your flag and your subsequent public post. There are several moderators so it took a while for everyone's opinions to be aired. After your first flag the post was immediately hidden but after discussion was re-enabled.

I feel I can speak for everyone having participated in the discussion, that we as a group feel that the posts you questioned did not violate any forum rules. Rules specifically allow humor as long as it is in good taste. Several of us ran the posts by our wives and female family members and not one of them thought it to be objectionable.

It was felt that there were levels of sensitivity to all views, and that yours while perhaps some degree of validity is far to the outside of the norm. To apply that level of sensitivity will stifle all friendly conversation that has been appropriate to this forum for close to 20 years some of us have been here. Yes we are sensitive to having women participate - they have come and gone. Because the user IDs can be handles We don't in fact know the gender of members unless they post it or guess it because they use an obviously female name or male name. as a result we treat everyone equally.

We are sorry to lose members, member ship has been one of our concerns, however we cannot tailor the rules to suit everyone.

This part is my opinion. Humor often pokes at stereotypes and exaggerates differences. It makes us laugh but it also makes us think about why things are different. Men and women are very different. There are often drastic ways we think differently. In other species (gorillas for example) males are dominant; in other species women are dominant and sometimes eat the males after reproduction (ugh). In the shopping meme it shows (perhaps unkindly to men) that men can be direct and insensitive to what goes on around them, while women are more observant and like to look around and soak up all there is. Its not bad or good.

Good bye.

Loring

[duramen]

I apologize for hijacking the thread, and will try to keep my response brief.

Whenever we separate people like that, one group may feel that they are the butt of the joke. Imagine if someone had replaced "Men" (why capitalized?) or "women" with "Asian" or "Black" or "Latino" or "White" or "islamic" or "Jewish" or "Catholic" or "irish" or whatever. How would it be interpreted? Women are subjected to subtle sexism often enough. If you don't understand why such humor might discourage some women from joining here, then I suggest that you ask around, and hopefully you will find someone who can explain it. Look up the term "microagresssion". (The term "microagression" has its own issues, but it is a starting point.) I may be sensitive to it, but perhaps you are not sensitive enough. People who live with discrimination notice it all day every day, but they rarely point it out to others. Yes, the banter may need to change if all members are to feel welcome and equal.

I flagged the humor post. I received a notification of a response to the flag, but saw no reply or other text (either private or public) and the post remained, so I decided to post my comment in the thread. It was a mistake, but I won't take it back.

Where are you from? (yeah I can look up your IP)

That little aside seems kinda' creepy to me.

In summary, I wish to express my appreciation to those who helped me here with my woodworking questions, but it is plain and clear that I don't fit in.

[dbhost]

Am I reading the label correctly, you list both mm and inch sizes?

[dbhost]

Nope, I need to as Nike says, just do it... And remember, 2 air compressors ganged together for 1 high flow setup.... I should have fixed the stupid thing months ago. Every time I think about it my priorities get changed for me... And it IS on the passenger side. So I tend to not see it until the car starts pulling funny.

[dbhost]

I've been on the fence about replying to this, but this just bugs me. I have shown the meme to several female family members, including one that was the first person to share that meme with me in the first place years ago, it's not a new thing in the slightest.

Not a one of them finds the meme offensive, or even unfunny... My wife going so far as to say "That's so me!"...

To be blunt, While woodworking has traditionally been a male dominated domain, we have been open, inviting and accepting of all people regardless of their reproductive organs. I for one simply couldn't care less about if you have an innie or an outie as it were. It's just not a consideration when dealing with the craft of woodworking.

We are not actively encouraging nor discouraging participation from anyone that has an interest in woodworking. We are encouraging the particpaton of ALL PEOPLE. PERIOD, end of story.

To treat women as "other" by changing up the approach to the hobby / craft is treating women as something less than men. The only area where I could think advice to women being different MAY be appropriate, and really it is not male / female specific, but is more comon with females, and that is tie / secure long hair back before using any equipment that could grab and pull that hair. Lathes are particularly nasty for that..

Same goes for flowing clothes. There may be other issues regarding protecting the anatomy differently that I honestly can not advise on, HOWEVER I am fully open to learning about so that the women that I love (Agape not eros if you know the difference) would be safe.

I also find the assertion that women would en masse and as a block respond with thin skinned offense to be highly, and I can ot emphasize that strongly enough, but it is HIGHLY insulting to the character of women. I could ask a sampling of women their input on this, but I already know that they are not of a single mind. They are individuals with their own thoughts and minds. To treat them as a collective is to deprive the individuals of their own agency.

Do you see women as delicate little flowers that cannot see a good natured meme without being harmed? Because if you do, YOU are the one treating women differently and as something less than men. And I ask you to reconsider your perspective.

If we are to treat women differently, we would have to adjust the banter back and forth between members and participants to this forum. And that would NOT be right.

Stick around and watch. We knock around the men pretty good too! Including an awful lot of self deprecating humor. And I am pretty sure the men won't bail by being all offended. Give women the same chance to have some joy in their lives instead of assuming they are offended at evertyhing. They might just surprise you...

[LCHIEN]

A man with two air compressors in his shop and a piped air system with regulators and filters, yet has underinflated tires on his car.... hmmmmmm. Need a longer hose?

[leehljp]

Does anyone think that the post above encourages women (and others) to show an interest in woodworking and join this forum? I don't.

Here is the message that many will see: "Women are treated differently here. This is the Boys' Club."

I have lived overseas (East Asia) and intermixed with nationals of several countries, and occasionally with internationals. Only in America (USA) among a few groups have I found a disdain for laughing at ourselves and culture. And no, I did not poke fun at the other cultures, but they sure did among themselves. Knowing their culture well and speaking their language, I saw their humor of their culture and laughed along with them. Men among men and women among women, and mixed. いどばた会議。 Ido bata kaigi = women at the well meeting = gossip party. Taught to me by my 70 year old female language teacher when I was 40. That was only one of hundreds of phrases that taught me their culture as well as their language. Life is to be enjoyed and much to be laughed at and with.

[dbhost]

I am not 100% certain, but for $5.00 it was worth ordering, but I might have found a replacement for the regulator diaphragm. Time will tell.

Took the wife out for a picnic lunch at the local park overlooking Galveston Bay. It was downright beautiful today, although a little chilly.

I need new tires for the front of the Malibu. The front passenger side apparently has been underinflated and is wearing the outer edges. Bleh... Gotta go to Wally World...

[twistsol]

I fit both depending on the store. Clothes shopping I fit the man pattern get in and out as quickly as possible. The grocery store is the opposite because I follow each weeks recipe in my head and get the items as I need them. Plus my grocery store rearranges stuff just to
Screw with me. Menards and Home Depot I need to see everything in case there is something new that I didn't know I needed.