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  • #16
    My shop teacher at a CC ran a cabinet shop full time out of his walk-out basement shop. His ceilings were definitely shorter than 8' but he made it work even having to use full sheets of plywood.

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    • #17
      The last lawn of the neighborhood was installed on Friday at our house and I spent yesterday wet and muddy getting the sprinkler system adjusted. Now I can finally get the permit for the deck, and once that's done I can finally start on the new shop.

      Last lawn of the neighborhood is installed
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      • #18
        I'm sneezing just seeing all that green stuff.

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        • #19
          Dang what a view!
          What row crop is planted across the street?
          how does above ground pools hold up to the low temps
          what gras sod did you plant?

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          • #20
            So, materials for the deck seem to be backordered/unavailable. Original delivery date was 7/22, then 8/17 and now 9/30. I started framing the basement for the shop, weight room, and bathroom last weekend. Finished that and wiring starts tonight.

            capncarl The "crops" are part of Bailey Nursery but due to covid, they aren't allowing anyone but employees on the site. They look like lilacs but my binoculars aren't good enough for me to see the leaves. The pool gets drained for the winter and the liner is taken out. We had a neighbor when I was a kid that left their ingound pool filled over the winter and the subsequent ice cracked the sides. For the rest of my childhood if you wanted to use the pool in the summer, in the spring you had to help scrape out the old caulk and clean the cracks with a wire brush so Mr. Fritz could re-caulk the pool for another season.
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            • #21
              I've made some progress but not a lot to see. All the outside walls are framed and insulation added where it wasn't in place already. Wiring is done except for the panel and the exhaust fans for the bathroom and the weight room. Plumbing is mostly done but the shower stall came in with the seat on the wrong side so it will be corrected and installed Monday. HVAC contractor is coming tomorrow to let me know if I can afford a mini split system for the shop and exercise room. Everything else for the new house has been over budget to the tune of $15K which was my entire shop budget.

              Here are few pics

              The exercise room that SWMBO insisted I put in the basement. Once I convinced her that 14x17 was plenty of space vs 20x17 that she wanted, I picked up an additional 100+ square feet for the shop so I'm at 773 square feet on the shop.

              Weight room framed with equipment and TV

              Here is the actual shop space. It looks like it went backwards from previous pics, but all the wiring and exterior wall framing is done so it is invisible progress.
              Shop in progress

              This is what happens when the builder buries the shower drain under concrete. The plumber found it ... eventually.
              Holes in concrete floor looking for the shower drain

              Finally the most exciting part for me since for the first time in my life, I won't need to go to another building to use the restroom. The bathroom plumbing
              Bathroom plumbing rough in
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              • #22
                Great Googly Moogly - I see a pile of Festools which can only mean you robbed the bank of England.
                Harumpf!
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GrumpyDad View Post
                  Great Googly Moogly - I see a pile of Festools which can only mean you robbed the bank of England.
                  It's my only vice. (Buying Festool, not robbing banks)
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by twistsol View Post

                    It's my only vice. (Buying Festool, not robbing banks)
                    Ah a fellow koolaid drinker

                    The shop is looking great. Man I wish I had that amount of space.

                    I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by twistsol View Post

                      (Buying Festool, not robbing banks)
                      I find that I need to do one in order to do the other.

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                      • #26
                        How many circuits of what voltage are you running/planning to run in those walls?

                        Will the walls be finished? Most places attached garages need finished walls (sheetrocked at least). Insulated I suppose, too.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by LCHIEN View Post
                          How many circuits of what voltage are you running/planning to run in those walls?

                          Will the walls be finished? Most places attached garages need finished walls (sheetrocked at least). Insulated I suppose, too.
                          For the shop I'm running 3 110v 20 amp circuits for outlets. 1 circuit for lighting, 1 240v 20amp circuit for the dust collector and another 240v 30amp circuit for the mini split system. In order to get the permits for everything, the shop space has to meet all the normal requirements for a living space in the house. For the rest of the basement, 1 more dedicated 20 amp circuit for the bath outlet and 1 20 amp circuit to the fitness room.

                          The walls will be finished with sheetrock and everything trimmed the same as the rest of the house. I'm putting in exterior doors between the shop space and the other spaces to help keep dust out of the house and I am going to be able to put in a mini split system as well so heating and cooling will be separate from the house as well. I expect to be ready for the first round of inspections in a couple of weeks. (electrical rough in, framing, plumbing, and HVAC and here they all require separate permits)

                          Insulation in Minnesota is cheap compared to dumping heat to the outside. Insulation requirements for basements are not codified in the state and for our city are "at the discretion of the inspector" who will evaluate the basement and give me the requirements at the first inspection. I'm also adding rock wool insulation to the ceiling to keep sound out of the house as well as mounting the ceiling sheetrock on resilient channels. Insulation and vapor barriers is yet another inspection point.
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                          • #28
                            When I wired my shop I decided to installed 2 lighting circuits. Ever been a shop running a saw when the lights went off?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by capncarl View Post
                              When I wired my shop I decided to installed 2 lighting circuits. Ever been a shop running a saw when the lights went off?
                              3 of the lights in the center of the shop are on the original basement lighting circuit along with the lights for the fitness room and the utility room lights. The rest of the shop lights are on a new circuit. Never been in the dark with a table saw, but I have had that happen when running the planer and was fumbling in the dark for the off switch which is of course right next to the planer's in feed.

                              I've had two lighting circuits in my shop ever since, and always will. The last two were split evenly with half the lights on one and the other half on another. This will just ensure I'm not left fumbling in complete darkness.
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                              • GrumpyDad
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                                Great idea. Good to plan ahead for such a thing

                              • LCHIEN
                                LCHIEN commented
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                                fumbling in the darkness with a running table saw....

                            • #30
                              You just brought back a memory. When I was a kid my older mad scientist brother whose domain was the basement discovered glow in the dark paint. He painted very strategically placed indicators all over the basement and garage for when the power went out. To this day they still glow at night. Been 50 or so years.
                              Harumpf!
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