Sketchup of my shop - opinions wanted

[Cochese]

Played around with it a bit more, ran some duct work approximately. Added a router storage cabinet for the handheld routers.









Think it might be better for the DC to be in the opposite corner.

[Cochese]

This would work better for the ducting.

[LCHIEN]

if virtually everything is on wheels, then permanent duct work makes little sense.
Just run a short flex hose to the center of the room where I predict most of your work will be done - you have no room for pieces of >4-6 foot length for work on the bandsaw, drill press miter saw, router table or/and jointer.

[dbhost]

First off, you're welcome for the HF band saw, dust collector, and air compressor models... Next though, I noted the new Ridgid OSS model. Do you happen to have a link to that?

[Cochese]

First off, you're welcome for the HF band saw, dust collector, and air compressor models... Next though, I noted the new Ridgid OSS model. Do you happen to have a link to that?

Oh, you have an F-150 then? That's good stuff.

Here is the 4424 http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...fcf0aaed5d73d0

The miter saw is permanent. I will have a chute behind that will hook into mounted ducting that runs over to the bandsaw. There I will have a removable flex hose that will connect from the separator box to either the bandsaw or the miter saw line. This hose would also be able to connect up to the planer. The line from the separator box to the DC might be an extendable hose.

The ceiling is too short to run anything overhead, unless I go into the ceiling. An option for a middle drop down, but not one for the miter saw. Maybe for the drill.

[wardprobst]

I would suggest putting the air compressor and dust collector outside in a lean to. It will put some of the noise outside and in that little space you will appreciate that. I'd also suggest putting the miter saw on an portable stand and wheeling it outside. I have never been able to get good dust collection on the miter saw. Finally, I'd put a cabinet base under the work bench other wise you are wasting a bunch of space.
Hope this helps,
DP

[Cochese]

Something will go under the bench I'm sure, but that will be a TBD thing.

I have a couple of unique issue with my space that will require some investigation. I have a ramp up to the shed that leads to a sloped surface. Previous attempts to make things mobile in the form of casters and cabinets have resulted in failure. I build a large mobile cabinet and couldn't get it back up the ramp. The saw works well because it has off-road wheels versus casters. I really like the arrangement of the miter saw on the cabinet, the only complaint being I pile stuff on the cabinet and have to move it to use the fence. With it in the new position, I could cut a ten foot 2x4 down to a two foot section or so. If I absolutely had to cut something smaller, it could be put on the mobile unit. To this point I have not had any issues with the DP or bandsaw not being mobile. The AC gets wheeled outside, so that's not that big of a deal anyway.

I would like to put the DC outside. Building a closed lean-to wouldn't be an issue. What might be is code. I would have to put a query into the county to see if that would be considered adding to the square footage. If it is, it probably can't be done. I am about at the limit for square footage at the current distance from the property line, if I'm within code as it is. I might be able to build a freestanding room for it, but it would still be permanently connected via the duct.

Building a new building probably won't happen at this house, with terrain and trees unfortunately. It's what I want, but I don't have the probable ten grand to do it.

[dbhost]

Oh, you have an F-150 then? That's good stuff.

Here is the 4424 http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...fcf0aaed5d73d0

The miter saw is permanent. I will have a chute behind that will hook into mounted ducting that runs over to the bandsaw. There I will have a removable flex hose that will connect from the separator box to either the bandsaw or the miter saw line. This hose would also be able to connect up to the planer. The line from the separator box to the DC might be an extendable hose.

The ceiling is too short to run anything overhead, unless I go into the ceiling. An option for a middle drop down, but not one for the miter saw. Maybe for the drill.

Yeah, my Google UID is different from here. But yeah, those are mine. BigDaveF150... :-), and please ignore my Sunhill Jointer model. That was done VERY quick just to get an idea for space used. It is very inaccurate...

Thanks for the link to the 4424...

[Cochese]

Just playing around with layout. Trying to see if I can keep my saw inside and use the bench as an outfeed table.

[LarryG]

Given the floor area you have to work with ... that's not bad. The biggest drawback I see is limited infeed room for the router table, but with a cramped layout like this, something's always going to have to give.

How long a piece could you rip without running into the rear wall?

[dbhost]

The pic is clipped off, hard to see what is going on in the bottom of the pic...

Some thoughts though...

#1. Can you get the compressor off the floor somehow? Maybe a shelf above the drill press?, would there be enough space?

#2. In the space you show, floor space is even more restricted than in my shop, you might want to give a tool stacker setup a serious look. I notice you have the planer on a stand.

What sort of jointer do you have? I know others will fuss at me for saying this, but if you want to free up floor space, and you have a floor model jointer, you might consider selling it and buying a bench top model. You would be a bit more restricted on the stock you could joint, but at least you could fit it in and not have to climb over it to get any work done.

Can you tack on a bump out to the building to get the DC moved into? You would buy back precious floor space, AND cut down on the noise at the same time. Compressor would work great in there too!

I have to assume that everything is on wheels so you can move it around as needed... That has got to help, a LOT...

Your clamp location looks like a real winner. Easy access is an understatement.

[Cochese]

Given the floor area you have to work with ... that's not bad. The biggest drawback I see is limited infeed room for the router table, but with a cramped layout like this, something's always going to have to give.

How long a piece could you rip without running into the rear wall?

The pic is clipped off, hard to see what is going on in the bottom of the pic...

Some thoughts though...

#1. Can you get the compressor off the floor somehow? Maybe a shelf above the drill press?, would there be enough space?

#2. In the space you show, floor space is even more restricted than in my shop, you might want to give a tool stacker setup a serious look. I notice you have the planer on a stand.

What sort of jointer do you have? I know others will fuss at me for saying this, but if you want to free up floor space, and you have a floor model jointer, you might consider selling it and buying a bench top model. You would be a bit more restricted on the stock you could joint, but at least you could fit it in and not have to climb over it to get any work done.

Can you tack on a bump out to the building to get the DC moved into? You would buy back precious floor space, AND cut down on the noise at the same time. Compressor would work great in there too!

I have to assume that everything is on wheels so you can move it around as needed... That has got to help, a LOT...

Your clamp location looks like a real winner. Easy access is an understatement.

The router table, saw, jointer, hot dog compressor, dust separator (what the planer is on), spindle sander are all on wheels. I usually wheel the compressor outside, so it could go on a shelf or in a lean-to fairly easily. Still don't know if I would be within code if I did the lean-to. It would certainly be easier on the ears. Outside of that, having a through-the-wall fitting and putting a wall-mounted DC on the outside when I need it could also be an option. Would just have to have a spot for it inside when not needed, location could be TBA because I wouldn't need to factor in ducts.

I just bought the jointer, so that's going to stay. I think I would rather make do with a wall-mount DC than give that up at this point. With this setup, I could bring the saw forward to the doorway on extra long pieces and get near a 10' cut.

But, I just thought of something and am going to shoot for a new layout. Hope to have that rendered this afternoon.

[pelligrini]

Don't forget about those long leg extensions on the left end of your 21829 stand. With the saw in that position you'll probably be cussing that trip hazard quite often.

[Cochese]

Don't forget about those long leg extensions on the left end of your 21829 stand. With the saw in that position you'll probably be cussing that trip hazard quite often.

Yeah, it's unfortunate I suck at Sketchup so bad I can't build one to see. The alternate option, one I've asked about before, is taking it off the stand and putting it on a cabinet with a router table. I don't want to take away the offroader capability, but it is tempting to be able to have everything contained in that space.

If I ever build an elevated patio outside the shop where I can wheel anything out for more space, it might push me over to doing it.

[dbhost]

Can one of you 21829 owners give me some measurements of the stand, wheels, and rails? The more detailed the better... I can try to whip up a model for you....