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  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 21773
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #1

    Brad nailer not working.

    I have a Craftsman 2" brad nailer.
    351.184240

    When I pull the trigger, the air hisses but no brad is fired.

    I'm not real familiar with how these things really operate. What should I look for/do to troubleshoot it, or should i just get a HF for $18?

    link to parts diagram:
    http://www.searspartsdirect.com/part...dMod=351184240

    The manual suggests possible causes:
    1. Needs oil - I put 6-7 drops of oil in the air inlet - done, no change.
    2. insufficient air - airs OK, fires other air nailers
    3. damage or broken head valve o-rings
    4, damaged head valve spring
    5. head valve binding in cap

    for 3,4 and 5 I need to disassemble the four screws on top... any advice before I dive in? do these things freeze up if not used for a while?
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 12-20-2011, 08:55 PM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions
  • Dal300
    Banned
    • Aug 2011
    • 261
    • East Central Texas
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    I haven't rebuilt a Craftsman, but I have rebuilt PC, Bostitch and a couple of others. There isn't anything really difficult about a rebuild, but if you are unsure, take pictures as you dismantle it and use them to help rebuild it.

    Oh, and use petroleum jelly on the O-rings or they can get pinched and leak.

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    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
      • 15216
      • So. Florida
      • Delta

      #3
      The cause is usually "O" rings, or a stuck piston/drive pin. If you bought the gun new, you likely got an extra set of "O" rings.
      .

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      • Pappy
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 10463
        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 (x2)

        #4
        Bad O ring would be my guess, too. my PC finish nailer acted the same way. Most any tool dealer/service center should be able to fix you up with the right replacement fing.
        Don, aka Pappy,

        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
        Fools because they have to say something.
        Plato

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        • chopnhack
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 3779
          • Florida
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          I have a slew of PC nailers and the only maintenance for years is a few drops of oil after each use and capping the air inlet before returning to the box. This seems to keep the oring from deteriorating as well as preventing rust. Let us know how the rebuild goes.
          I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 21773
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            Looks like a broken head valve.
            $6 from sears parts, Should probably replace all the o-rings. O-rings no longer available from parts direct.

            By the time I spend $6 plus $8 shipping,, then go dig around the HW store for the right sized o-rings plus time and labor, will I be better off with a HF $18 brad nailer which is functionally equivalent? Will I miss the C'man?

            P.S. I have to confess, I actually picked up the HF unit this afternoon when I was driving by...

            Should I bother to fix the Craftsman?

            P.P.S. The HF seems to work pretty well, no real complaints. I wonder if the internal parts (e.g. head valve) are plastic like the C'man.

            Anyone have any trouble with reliability of the HF units?
            Last edited by LCHIEN; 12-20-2011, 11:23 PM.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
            BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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            • chopnhack
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2006
              • 3779
              • Florida
              • Ryobi BT3100

              #7
              Keep the craftsman and when you "happen" upon the parts in the course of your work or travels, then you'll have the cman back in action, because you never know when the HF will crap out ;P
              I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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              • gsmittle
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 2790
                • St. Louis, MO, USA.
                • BT 3100

                #8
                Originally posted by LCHIEN

                P.P.S. The HF seems to work pretty well, no real complaints. I wonder if the internal parts (e.g. head valve) are plastic like the C'man.

                Anyone have any trouble with reliability of the HF units?
                The guts of my HF nailers are metal. I haven't had any trouble with any of them, except for the pin nailer not firing. After a complete disassembly, I discovered I hadn't turned on the compressor. It works much better with an air supply!

                g.
                Smit

                "Be excellent to each other."
                Bill & Ted

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                • cabinetman
                  Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 15216
                  • So. Florida
                  • Delta

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LCHIEN

                  By the time I spend $6 plus $8 shipping,, then go dig around the HW store for the right sized o-rings plus time and labor, will I be better off with a HF $18 brad nailer which is functionally equivalent? Will I miss the C'man?
                  That's the premise. It's not worth the money. You won't miss the Craftsman. Most of my guns are Duo-Fast and Senco. By the time I pay for parts, or a bench fee, I could have a brand new HF gun. They are as reliable as any brand, and they come with rebuild kits, and use most any brand fastener.

                  .

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                  • Dal300
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 261
                    • East Central Texas
                    • Ryobi BT3100

                    #10
                    You might want to pick up a couple of the HF O-ring assortments. I have all their different sets in metric and SAE also in Nitrile, Viton and standard.
                    300 O-rings in each kit, and they have been worth their weight in gold just in gas savings and time spent at a parts place looking for the right size.

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                    • LCHIEN
                      Super Moderator
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 21773
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Dal300
                      You might want to pick up a couple of the HF O-ring assortments. I have all their different sets in metric and SAE also in Nitrile, Viton and standard.
                      300 O-rings in each kit, and they have been worth their weight in gold just in gas savings and time spent at a parts place looking for the right size.
                      Dang, that's a good idea, wish i'd thought of that while i was at the store yesterday. Its a good 45 minutes fro the house and 45 minutes from the office. I just happened to be at a training session which was 1 mile from HF and we got out early.
                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                      • chopnhack
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3779
                        • Florida
                        • Ryobi BT3100

                        #12
                        Dal300, I have often thought of the same thing for small hardware but never got around to getting much of a set together. Do you have a decent setup of nuts and bolts? Just curious what sizings you went with.
                        I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                        • Dal300
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 261
                          • East Central Texas
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          C&H,
                          As a sideline business, (use to be my main business before getting hurt), I converted big buses into motor homes.
                          When I closed up shop I gave away tons of parts and pieces but still had to haul a bunch of parts with me.
                          Because of that I seldom buy a nut, bolt, hinge, drawer slide, drawer pull, or many other parts. I have boxes and boxes full of parts.

                          My problem is that I forget where I have something stashed and I spend days looking for it, then as soon as I buy a replacement it will turn up, usually laying on the work bench in front of me.

                          Originally posted by chopnhack
                          Dal300, I have often thought of the same thing for small hardware but never got around to getting much of a set together. Do you have a decent setup of nuts and bolts? Just curious what sizings you went with.

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                          • dbhost
                            Slow and steady
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 9465
                            • League City, Texas
                            • Ryobi BT3100

                            #14
                            Loring,

                            If you can get the head apart without tearing the gasket, you might try oiling the O rings directly, reassemble, and try it... Not a brad nailer, but my old Snap On / Blue Point AT500C long anvil impact wrench was blowing by with no actual action until I did that...
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                            • LCHIEN
                              Super Moderator
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 21773
                              • Katy, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 vintage 1999

                              #15
                              not o-ring failure... the head valve (plastic part) was in two pieces. Should have been metal.
                              Loring in Katy, TX USA
                              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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