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  • Pappy
    The Full Monte
    • Dec 2002
    • 10481
    • San Marcos, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 (x2)

    #1

    More Playpen Upgrades

    I mentioned in another thread that I would like to replace the roof with a Gambrel style to give me room to store jigs and seldom used tools above the cabinets. I was also thinking that the awning over the work deck really needed some attention and cleaning.

    While I was at work yesterday I got a bit of assistance in setting the timeline for these changes/repairs. Along with some much needed rain, the wife said we got a brief blast of high winds. I came home to find the awning already partially removed for me!

    It would have been nice if my 'assistant' had been a wee bit more careful with the demolision. It might have made the repairs and reinstall much easier!
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    The first step was to shut off the power until I got inside and unplgged the power cord. After that I spent a couple of hours removing the remaining attachment points from the building and stripping the fiberglass panels off so I could move the frame into the open.

    Except for the fact that both edges should be touching the ground in these pictures, it really isn't that bad. The left side folded up and over, sustaining very little damage except where it is welded to the ridge. I was even able to salvage most of the 'glass panels from that side.
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    I have an appointment with the doc later this morning, but I should be able to get most of the damaged tubing cut away and new pieces welded in today.

    Rough (eyeball) guesstimate is that the Gambrel roof trusses can be fabricated with 3-4' sections of 2x's. There is a granite company up the road that throws a bunch of this stuff away and told me to help myself. I haven't looked close, but I hopefully I can get enough 2x6 from their dumpster. If not, I can get away with 2x4's, since the commercial shed roofs are framed with them. The difference is with 2x4 framing the trusses are cut to sit on top of the wall with no birdmouth.
    Don, aka Pappy,

    Wise men talk because they have something to say,
    Fools because they have to say something.
    Plato
  • TB Roye
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 2969
    • Sacramento, CA, USA.
    • BT3100

    #2
    What a mess at least you building is ok. How soon are you planning on building the big shop you bought?

    Tom

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    • dbhost
      Slow and steady
      • Apr 2008
      • 9501
      • League City, Texas
      • Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      You have the technology, you can make it better. Better, faster, stronger than it ever was before...

      All of the sudden I am channeling the spirit of Lee Majors... Sheesh...

      You know, this looks like a perfectly good excuse to grow that playpen! Nothing a bit more lumber, gravel, tar paper, nails etc... can't fix!

      Uh, I have been considering doing my own shed project, and the wife came up with a scary thought regarding high winds. How do you keep it attached to the ground.

      If I recall right you aren't a hurricane target like I am, but being in Texas you are prone to high winds anywhere in the state... Check with your building code and permit requirements. You might want to build a bigger playpen on a slab now. Good time to do it...

      "But honey, I am only fixing what the wind storm broke!"...
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      • JR
        The Full Monte
        • Feb 2004
        • 5636
        • Eugene, OR
        • BT3000

        #4
        I'm glad it wasn't worse, Don!

        Out of curiousity, why aren't you building the new playpen, as opposed to upgrading this one?

        JR
        JR

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        • eezlock
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 997
          • Charlotte,N.C.
          • BT3100

          #5
          playpen upgrades

          Don, hate to see what the wind did to your shop, but.....that is what happens sometimes! What has happened to your new, bigger playpen that you bought and had to dismantle and move to your place? If I lived close to you...would help with the construction of it, if I could be of any help....eezlock

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          • crokett
            The Full Monte
            • Jan 2003
            • 10627
            • Mebane, NC, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3000

            #6
            Originally posted by dbhost
            Uh, I have been considering doing my own shed project, and the wife came up with a scary thought regarding high winds. How do you keep it attached to the ground.
            Around here they use metal straps around the rim joists that are attached to big metal stakes in the ground.
            David

            The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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            • Pappy
              The Full Monte
              • Dec 2002
              • 10481
              • San Marcos, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 (x2)

              #7
              Originally posted by dbhost
              You have the technology, you can make it better. Better, faster, stronger than it ever was before...
              The same thing was running through my mind last night.

              Way too much work to expand the building itself, at least the main section. The lumber storage is an add on the the original so that remains a possiblilty. Most of the repairs and the new roof can be done with materials that either I have on hand or can scrounge so the cost will be minimal.

              The new shop is on hold due to some unexpected financial problems that ate into the building fund. With luck....This fall. Another reason not to expand the current shop too much is that it will be moved near the new shop and become a dedicated finishing room.

              DB, the only thing holding the building down is gravity. Between the tools, stored supplies, and and the structure, that is a considerable force.
              Don, aka Pappy,

              Wise men talk because they have something to say,
              Fools because they have to say something.
              Plato

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              • shoottx
                Veteran Member
                • May 2008
                • 1240
                • Plano, Texas
                • BT3000

                #8
                I hope the wind didn't get that new Burger cooker.

                What a mess. But it is a great time to pause and rethink what you would like to do differently rather than jump in and repair it to the previous state.

                Wish you the best!
                Often in error - Never in doubt

                Mike

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                • dbhost
                  Slow and steady
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 9501
                  • League City, Texas
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #9
                  I know that there are large corkscrew sort of things, that can be driven about 6' into the ground that they use for anchoring mobile homes here on the coast, I am pretty sure they aren't going to keep a double wide on its cinder blocks when Katrina's big sister hits, but it would be more than enough for keeping my shed on skids from sliding out of Galveston County and over to Brazoria when a little sister like Rita blows through town...

                  I gotcha on the budget thing / building fund... Know the feeling all too well. If you have the material to fix what you have, or can get the material on the cheap, best to rebuild for now....

                  Your major build projects can come when the $$ comes. Kind of like me finally finishing up my kitchen and back fence!
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                  • ironhat
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 2553
                    • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
                    • Ridgid 3650 (can I still play here?)

                    #10
                    Major Bummer, Don! Knowing your type A personality you'll have it back up in no time. Shoot us some pics when you do.
                    Best of luck!
                    Blessings,
                    Chiz

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                    • wardprobst
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 681
                      • Wichita Falls, TX, USA.
                      • Craftsman 22811

                      #11
                      Hey Don,

                      My sympathy, last month the wind took the roof of our warehouse up in Burkburnett so I feel your pain! Give us a hollar next time you're up this way.
                      DP
                      www.wardprobst.com

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                      • Pappy
                        The Full Monte
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 10481
                        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 (x2)

                        #12
                        With a C note in the tank each way, it is getting too expensive to make the trip very often. I need to get with you and see if you can pick something up at Sutherlands for me. I think I still have your number.
                        Don, aka Pappy,

                        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                        Fools because they have to say something.
                        Plato

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                        • Pappy
                          The Full Monte
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 10481
                          • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                          • BT3000 (x2)

                          #13
                          Update...

                          All of the truss parts, including the gussets, are cut and I got the work deck cleaned up today (Half a pick up bed full in my truck). Some of this was from cleaning out the shop and wood storage beore the storm. I have some ply that got wet in the storm and will be going in the trash when I am done. For now it is good enough for test cuts and throw-away jigs.

                          I also finished up the truss jig and got 3 of the trusses put together before I ran out of adhesive. Used up what I had lying around that was still good. I will pick up some more tomorrow on the way home and finish the other 5 trusses. I'm off Thursday and plan to R&R the roof. Hopefully I can get the eldest over here to help if he isn't working.

                          Tuesday and Wednesday evenings I will start cutting out the damage on the awning frame and making replacement pieces.

                          So far the cash outlay has been minimal. Scrounged the 2x4 for the rafters from a granite company's pallets, the OSB for the gussets from crates at a plumbing supply on my route that is being remodeled, adhesive that was already on hand, and 6 sheets of 12' R panel that was laying between some warehouses on my route. (None of the buildings in the complex had R panels on them.)

                          I did spend a $86.68 at HD today. Bought a One+ caulk gun and some siding. Found 10 sheets of what I thought was all 4" center 3/8 siding in the cull area with the ends sprayed orange, meaning it was $4.01 per piece. Figured I would flip the worst 6 over and use them for sheathing on the roof and the rest to cover the new gable area. Turned out 5 of them were the 8" center Smart Siding. About $190 in siding for $40.10. I'll take a deal like that any day!
                          Last edited by Pappy; 07-13-2008, 07:51 PM.
                          Don, aka Pappy,

                          Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                          Fools because they have to say something.
                          Plato

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                          • dbhost
                            Slow and steady
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 9501
                            • League City, Texas
                            • Ryobi BT3100

                            #14
                            Not sure about the HD in your area Pappy, BUT... One thing I have thought of is that you might want to paint that playpen to keep it from rotting... My HD had Glidden Exterior paint for $17.99 gallon when the wife and I went in yesterday. I would slap some Kilz on that thing, and some paint when the assembly is done... Not trying to be picky, just hoping to help you keep your playpen around for years to come!
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                            • Pappy
                              The Full Monte
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 10481
                              • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 (x2)

                              #15
                              It actually has an oil stain finish on it. Just needs to be redone. I have been thinking about going thru all my old paint and seeing what I can come up with that is still good.
                              Don, aka Pappy,

                              Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                              Fools because they have to say something.
                              Plato

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