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  • radhak
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 3061
    • Miramar, FL
    • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

    #16
    20 lbs is not heavy. And a guitar would not even be 20 lbs. It could easily be held with regular plastic anchors.

    But for the sake of abundance of caution, the anchors linked by Sailor would do admirably well. Anything more would be overkill.

    I for one am not into music of any sort, but my daughter has a guitar, so after looking at pictures of guitar hangers online, I built her something similar with a U-hook from Harbor Freight:



    I believe I used anchors like Sailor's, maybe even cheaper, marked 50lbs each. Has been rock solid for the past 4 years.
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    • tfischer
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 2349
      • Plymouth (Minneapolis), MN, USA.
      • BT3100

      #17
      Originally posted by radhak
      20 lbs is not heavy. And a guitar would not even be 20 lbs. It could easily be held with regular plastic anchors. .
      It would probably be fine. But being a musician myself, I'm not willing to trust my instruments to "probably"... especially when a much safer alternative is available for little extra time/money (just spanning the studs on the surface of the wall with a hardwood board and anchoring into that)

      Remember in addition to weight, you have the constant force of removing and dropping on the guitar repeatedly for the next umpteen years. If this is strictly a display that never gets removed, then you're likely a-ok. But again, I'd rather be safe than sorry. I've seen plastic anchors fail far too many times. Towels don't weigh 20 pounds either, but I've seen plenty of towel bars attached to plastic anchors (including Togglers) fail.

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      • capncarl
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 3738
        • Leesburg Georgia USA
        • SawStop CTS

        #18
        I vote for taking the wood off your string swing and replacing it with a stud to stud piece that matches the original wood. It can also be fastened through the Sheetrock with an anchor like sailor recommends. That way you do not have to do Sheetrock repair until you move!
        capncarl

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        • radhak
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3061
          • Miramar, FL
          • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

          #19
          Originally posted by tfischer
          It would probably be fine. But being a musician myself, I'm not willing to trust my instruments to "probably"... especially when a much safer alternative is available for little extra time/money (just spanning the studs on the surface of the wall with a hardwood board and anchoring into that)

          Remember in addition to weight, you have the constant force of removing and dropping on the guitar repeatedly for the next umpteen years. If this is strictly a display that never gets removed, then you're likely a-ok. But again, I'd rather be safe than sorry. I've seen plastic anchors fail far too many times. Towels don't weigh 20 pounds either, but I've seen plenty of towel bars attached to plastic anchors (including Togglers) fail.
          I fully agree, particularly about the stress on the fasteners because of the take-off-put-em-back . And hence I used (and recommend) the special anchors linked above.

          I like to figure out said stress before using any fasteners. I have always thought a towel rack needs a far stronger anchor than anything else, though weighing only a wee bit. The towel gets pulled off the rack, mostly with a downward action, and then put back, again with a lot of downward/outward force/weight : momentary, but repeated umpteen times a day, the towel rack becomes one of the most abused (pulled/pushed) article around the house, along with the fridge door and the study chairs. I'm rather surprised towel racks don't fail more often than they do!

          In the past four years, I have observed the guitar holder on the wall that I put up. In general, my daughter is not a very careful person, and flings her stuff around with abandon (more than most teenagers). But when she takes off the guitar or puts it back on, she does not get to be very rough with it: maybe this type of holder, and maybe it's her nice, shiny, beloved guitar, ensure that. With that, and the two anchors with a combined strength of 100 lbs, I would safely guess that holder will stay put for years from now.
          It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
          - Aristotle

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          • sailor55330
            Established Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 494

            #20
            LOL, this thread has actually become kind of funny. The discussion is about hanging a 10-15 pound object, which is obviously treated with care and respect by an adult, and the overwhelming recommendation is to build a structure that would potentially hold hundreds of pounds or involves drywall repair. For $6, go buy a box of the twist anchors and test them. I'm a musician and wouldn't hesitate to use them hang my instruments.

            Maybe the best answer is to buy a $10 floor stand!!!!--LOL

            Good luck guys--I'm sure whatever method is chosen will work well.

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            • dbhost
              Slow and steady
              • Apr 2008
              • 9476
              • League City, Texas
              • Ryobi BT3100

              #21
              Originally posted by sailor55330
              LOL, this thread has actually become kind of funny. The discussion is about hanging a 10-15 pound object, which is obviously treated with care and respect by an adult, and the overwhelming recommendation is to build a structure that would potentially hold hundreds of pounds or involves drywall repair. For $6, go buy a box of the twist anchors and test them. I'm a musician and wouldn't hesitate to use them hang my instruments.

              Maybe the best answer is to buy a $10 floor stand!!!!--LOL

              Good luck guys--I'm sure whatever method is chosen will work well.
              That would be my next choice. But FWIW, I don't use a $10.00 floor stand...

              Specifically I use a $60.00 which at the time I bought it was more like $100.00 (Amazon has REALLY brought the prices down!) Hercules triple stand. This thread has me wondering if I can stand the triple on top of my amp. I have precious little floor space to spare in that room, which is one of the reasons why I wanted to hang the basses...

              Oh the triple stand is at http://www.amazon.com/Hercules-GS432.../dp/B000ARH3M6
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              • radhak
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 3061
                • Miramar, FL
                • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

                #22
                Originally posted by sailor55330
                ... The discussion is about hanging a 10-15 pound object, which is obviously treated with care and respect by an adult, ....
                exactly - if the anchors work for a child, they should work for anybody else!

                Originally posted by dbhost
                ... I have precious little floor space to spare in that room...
                At my place, floor space trumps anything else. I hang up on the wall anything I can!
                It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                - Aristotle

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                • dbhost
                  Slow and steady
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 9476
                  • League City, Texas
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #23
                  Ugh... I just made the mistake of checking out prices on new gear. Holy smokes have prices gone up over the last 10 years or so!

                  Even the cheap Squier Prescision bass with P/J pickups is going for nearly $500.00 now!

                  Okay the Affinity series bass with only the P style pickup is $179.00 but I'll pass on that...

                  I had the what they called the Prescision Bass Special, which was identical to the current "VINTAGE MODIFIED PRECISION BASSŪ PJ" except the pick guard on mine was white, the new ones are black. Mine was in Candy Apple Red, I bought it brand new at Danny D's in I guess it was 2001 or 2002 for something around $250.00. The price has nearly doubled in 10 years! I sure hope the quality has too!
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                  • Tom Slick
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                    • May 2005
                    • 2913
                    • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                    • sears BT3 clone

                    #24
                    I've hung about 30 of those guitar hangers (used to work in a guitar factory). Any toggle style anchor is fine.
                    Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                    • JimD
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                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4187
                      • Lexington, SC.

                      #25
                      I would probably use wall anchors but putting a board in the wall isn't hard either. I would cut out a piece of wall board slightly wider than a 2x4, cut a piece of 2x4 that is a snug fit between the studs, put pocket holes in it, put it in place with the pocket screws and then replace the drywall. Fiberglass tape and a view coats of drywall compound and you're ready for paint. Setting type compound lets you do it in a day. But it's still a lot more work than wall anchors.

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