First Project I've Shown Here

[lombard]

So, this one's nothing major. Couple (several) weekends worth of work. Tons of pocket holes and lots of glue. Made it out of cedar, coated it with Penofin. It's functional, but still a work in progress...need to replace part of the top with granite or slate to have a decent heat proof working surface. Just wanted to get to grilling on the new egg ASAP!

[Richard in Smithville]

Very nice unit. I love the look of cedar-especially when given a top coat to pop the grain. Will you replace both work surfaces or just the top one?

[Black wallnut]

Good looking cart, what's for dinner?

[atgcpaul]

You had me at "Egg". Nice cart. I want some steaks now.

What size is that? I have a medium and am always looking for a large. I need a cart like yours. I'm only using the nest and it's a PITA to move around.

[greenacres2]

Very nice cart!! How about some more pics of the miter saw station?? Looks like it a multi-tool kind of work station with some modular (?) storage??

earl

[lombard]

Very nice unit. I love the look of cedar-especially when given a top coat to pop the grain. Will you replace both work surfaces or just the top one?

Planning to just rework the top surface. Probably gonna hang around the granite places to find a decent remnant.

You had me at "Egg". Nice cart. I want some steaks now.

What size is that? I have a medium and am always looking for a large. I need a cart like yours. I'm only using the nest and it's a PITA to move around.

Got the large. Even though it's just me here, I figured the medium would be too limiting.

Very nice cart!! How about some more pics of the miter saw station?? Looks like it a multi-tool kind of work station with some modular (?) storage??

earl

Got the idea from here. Here's the website with the plans I based it on.

[Pappy]

Ditto on the good looking results on the Egg Cart! Cedar is a beautiful wood to work with and finish.

The Ultimate Tool Stand has been around for a long time and there have been many adaptations of it by members here. Everything from a multi tool station like you did to a base/wide table for the BT 3.

[dbhost]

Very nice so far. I have seen a lot of guys build these and have always wondered how well the pocket holes / screws worked in the long run for something that rolls around. keep us posted on that!

I have only seen one other that didn't have a wooden top, and it was actually a cedar top wrapped with stainless steel.

[lombard]

Very nice so far. I have seen a lot of guys build these and have always wondered how well the pocket holes / screws worked in the long run for something that rolls around. keep us posted on that!

I have only seen one other that didn't have a wooden top, and it was actually a cedar top wrapped with stainless steel.

Well, to be fair, the thing is glued together with Titebond III. After cure, the glue joint is stronger than the screws or surrounding wood, so in theory I could just remove all the screws. Did pocket holes to make sure there were no visible screw heads without having to clamp everything and wait for the glue to cure.

[dbhost]

Please take this as it is meant, which is honest curiosity as what you are saying you did I have always been taught will not work. If what I was taught is wrong I want to know.

I would suspect that the end grain issue would make the glue close to useless... How do you get around the end grain glue issue without screws, dowels, M&T or some other type of joint?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEj404EhW9U

[LCHIEN]

It looks (from the first picture) that the OP used PH screws to connect the aprons to the legs. That would make the ends of the apron end-grain against the long grain of the legs. Basically butt joints with PH screws.

So as dbhost says, the traditional conventional wisdom is that end grain does not hold well for glue joints - good glue joints would involve long grain to long grain. At least part of the problem is that end grains soaks up the glue so not much is left for joint strength.

That's why butt joints are not used much in good joinery; preferred joints would use lapping, or ends set in rabbets so that the sides of the ends would be glued. Also M&T, even dowels let long grain-to long grain gluing come into play on joints.

[Ed62]

Nice well done project. You should enjoy using that.

Ed

[Woodshark]

Congratulation on the DIY BGE table. I made mine several years ago and I'm so glad I did. May I make a recommendation? I would adding a single 18x18" or 20x20" flooring tile to the right side of the table top. That way you can place hot items on the table (and trust me-you will) without worrying about burning or discoloring the wood. Plus tile is easy to clean. You can just place it on top or get fancy and route out a shallow area and drop in the tile.

[lombard]

It looks (from the first picture) that the OP used PH screws to connect the aprons to the legs. That would make the ends of the apron end-grain against the long grain of the legs. Basically butt joints with PH screws.

So as dbhost says, the traditional conventional wisdom is that end grain does not hold well for glue joints - good glue joints would involve long grain to long grain. At least part of the problem is that end grains soaks up the glue so not much is left for joint strength.

That's why butt joints are not used much in good joinery; preferred joints would use lapping, or ends set in rabbets so that the sides of the ends would be glued. Also M&T, even dowels let long grain-to long grain gluing come into play on joints.

True, which is why I doubled up on the high stress/load joints with a sistered chunk of wood. Plenty of edge grain to edge grain surface as well as additional butt-joint surfaces. I've got no worries.

Congratulation on the DIY BGE table. I made mine several years ago and I'm so glad I did. May I make a recommendation? I would adding a single 18x18" or 20x20" flooring tile to the right side of the table top. That way you can place hot items on the table (and trust me-you will) without worrying about burning or discoloring the wood. Plus tile is easy to clean. You can just place it on top or get fancy and route out a shallow area and drop in the tile.

Yeah, I'm actually planning to check out some of the local granite shops around here for a decent remnant. I just threw this together as-is to get to grilling a bit sooner.

[LCHIEN]

True, which is why I doubled up on the high stress/load joints with a sistered chunk of wood. Plenty of edge grain to edge grain surface as well as additional butt-joint surfaces. I've got no worries.



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I did notice that on the lower section. I don't think its going to fall apart and I didn't mean the previous post as criticism.

Here's how I built a BGE cart for my sister...
http://www.bt3central.com/showthread...light=BBQ+cart