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  • tvarch
    Forum Newbie
    • Apr 2008
    • 10

    Blade adjustment problem sudden drop

    Hi all, I hope someone can help me with a problem that has me stumped.
    When I lower the blade on my B3100 it will drop suddenly once it reaches a certain height. After the drop it will lower as it should. When i raise the blade it will go up a certain distance and then stop. If I lift the motor an inch or so the mechanism re-engages and the blade can be raised to full height.
    I have stripped down the saw,cleaned,. etc... but can not fix the problem.
    I do not think the threads on the aluminum arbor are stripped because the blade will raise and lower normally except at a certain point.
    Any ideas??
  • Black wallnut
    cycling to health
    • Jan 2003
    • 4715
    • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
    • BT3k 1999

    #2
    Where in the range is it doing this? I'm stumped on what might be causing this problem.
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    • tvarch
      Forum Newbie
      • Apr 2008
      • 10

      #3
      Black Walnut- it is happening in the middle of the range. My blade drops if less than an inch above the surface. I am stumped too. I haven't yet taken the motor out and looked inside the aluminum arbor but I cant see why it would be stripped if the blade adjustment works in the rest of the range.

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      • mnmphd
        Forum Newbie
        • Feb 2006
        • 49

        #4
        The behavior is consistent with stripped or damaged threads on the
        lift screw. However, I find it hard to believe this is the real problem.

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        • natausch
          Established Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 436
          • Aurora, IL
          • BT3000 - 15A

          #5
          Its possible that the thread of the adjustment screw itself is stripped; instead of the bushing like most people see.

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          • tvarch
            Forum Newbie
            • Apr 2008
            • 10

            #6
            Here is a photo of the threaded shaft with motor raised.
            I can't see a problem but maybe one of you can.
            Attached Files

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            • Black wallnut
              cycling to health
              • Jan 2003
              • 4715
              • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
              • BT3k 1999

              #7
              Check your bevel locking lever, perhaps the problem is in that assembly.
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              • pelligrini
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 4217
                • Fort Worth, TX
                • Craftsman 21829

                #8
                Originally posted by tvarch
                Here is a photo of the threaded shaft with motor raised.
                I can't see a problem but maybe one of you can.
                A few of those threads in the middle portion of the shaft look to be slightly flat. I suppose if the aluminum threads are worn too, it might be slipping on those worn threads on the shaft. You did mention that the dropping happened in the middle of the range.

                You might get under the saw and start lowering the blade to see what is slipping. I've got a feeling that the aluminum threads are worn, and you'll see the blade raising arm slide down over those worn threads.
                Erik

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                • Pappy
                  The Full Monte
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 10453
                  • San Marcos, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 (x2)

                  #9
                  Like Erik suggested, watch from under the saw as someone lowers the blade for you. If you continue to use the saw without fixing the problem, every time it drops the damage is going to get worse.
                  Don, aka Pappy,

                  Wise men talk because they have something to say,
                  Fools because they have to say something.
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                  • tvarch
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 10

                    #10
                    Thanks all,
                    Looks like I will need to take the saw apart to get to the bottom of the problem.
                    No complaints, I have had the saw 16 years it doesn't owe me much.

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                    • pelligrini
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4217
                      • Fort Worth, TX
                      • Craftsman 21829

                      #11
                      16 years of use isn't too bad.

                      Did you see it slipping from below? If it's what I think it is a helicoil insert will probably fix it. Please keep us posted on what it turns out to be.
                      Erik

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                      • LCHIEN
                        Internet Fact Checker
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 20966
                        • Katy, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 vintage 1999

                        #12
                        my guess is that it sounds like the aluminum threads are stripped in the motor bracket.
                        Loring in Katy, TX USA
                        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                        • tvarch
                          Forum Newbie
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 10

                          #13
                          I finally got the motor out of the saw. Once you've done it it doesn't seem so difficult.
                          Sure enough the aluminium threads are stripped. Have a look at the photo.
                          Now I am off to find an insert.
                          Thanks again for your help everyone.
                          Attached Files

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                          • pelligrini
                            Veteran Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 4217
                            • Fort Worth, TX
                            • Craftsman 21829

                            #14
                            Hehe, I've found that getting stuff apart usually isn't as hard as getting it back togeather properly.

                            Hope everything goes as painlessly as possible and you get your saw up and running again. You might consider changing out the belts while you've got it apart.
                            Erik

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                            • LCHIEN
                              Internet Fact Checker
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 20966
                              • Katy, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 vintage 1999

                              #15
                              keep us posted on progress, Tvarch.
                              Loring in Katy, TX USA
                              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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