Last night was an eventful one, to be sure... Got out of my car at a late-night store, and was immediately confronted by a do-rag-wearing young punk, brandishing a butterfly knife. The Glock was out of reach, or I'd have used it, so I had to do things the old fashioned way, and ended up busting him up pretty good. No problem, I thought, I've been here before... Today, however, I'm struggling with second thoughts about maybe working him over more than I had to. I'm remorseful that I could've gained control of the situation with more control and less damage. I lost my temper a little, and despite knowing I was well within my rights to deal with it this way, or even worse, I'm feeling guilty about it. This is not a feeling I would have had in my somewhat younger years. Just trying to reconcile it in my mind now, and not enjoying the process...
Kinda bummed today...
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The punk got off easy. If you had access to your Glock he could be dead and you would be having different second thoughts. It could have ended a lot different, he could have been more agile and better with the knife than you anticipated and could have been the winner and drove off in your car with you wallet and house keys and left you bleeding on the ground. Yep, you should have broke both legs.
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Loosing control of ones temper is disconcerting, I do not like doing it myself. You might find a small amount of solace in the thought that he might have been even worse off if you had access to the gun.
I always believe people get what they deserve. I'd probably try to think of it something like you just made delivery of some well deserved karma, and that slightly loosing control was the only way to carry it out.ErikComment
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I respect your feelings of remorse, but this was a much better outcome for both of you than some of the other possibilities, which definitely include serious injury or death. He has no business approaching people like that...hopefully, he'll learn a lesson. This was a bad situation that ended reasonably well. Personally, I think you done good!Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.Comment
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Today, however, I'm struggling with second thoughts about maybe working him over more than I had to. I'm remorseful that I could've gained control of the situation with more control and less damage. I lost my temper a little, and despite knowing I was well within my rights to deal with it this way, or even worse, I'm feeling guilty about it.online at http://www.theFrankes.com
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It's always hard to tell just how you will react when confronted with a situation like this. Often times thinking goes out the window and instints take over. It's good that you handled it properly and quickly. Just out of curiosity, did you call the cops afterwards or did you just let him hobble home to lick his wounds?Comment
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There was no hobbling or licking... He needed a hospital. I called the law, and sat there with the Glock in my lap (in case he had friends around) until the cops arrived.Comment
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FWIW, I see all of these "police brutality" complaints about some kid who tries running the cops over in a stolen car, nearly kills a family in their minivan as they are trying to get out of the way, and then pulls a weapon on the cops as they try to run away when they get hammered with the pit maneuver. These same punks then have the gall to act surprised when the cops lose control and render a serious butt kicking to them.
While I do not endorse needless violence, well as the old saying goes...
"He just needed to get his (symbol for the American Democrat Party) kicked".
I have only had something like that happen to me once, at Home Depot, I had a 2x4 in my hand... He needed an ambulance and a lawyer.
I am honestly not sure why your conscience should be bothering you about this. You did not go out of your way to harm somebody that wasn't bothering you. And maybe a solid beating will teach the twit that he just can't tell who is going to get the better of him for doing stupid stuff like that...Last edited by dbhost; 04-30-2010, 10:06 AM.Please like and subscribe to my YouTube channel. Please check out and subscribe to my Workshop Blog.Comment
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Rule #1...
Brandishing a knife with threatening actions in a case of non self defense = the risk of getting shot... physically harmed.. going to jail.. etc..
He got the lesser sentence! Remorse..? Remorse for what..?.. defending your right to be a peaceful.. law abiding citizen!
Thanks for having the balls to defend yourself and doing your civic duty without the use of tax-payer money for court cost. Do you suppose if he had harmed you he would be remorseful this morning? I already know the answer to that so.. no reply necessary!Comment
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I'm reminded of a time years back when I sat on a jury, in judgment of a derelict drunk who threw a motorcycle helmet at a police officer, who promptly whipped out his nightstick and broke half the bones in the drunk's body with it. I was conflicted then, as well. Sure, the drunk was stupid, and deserved to go to jail, but was the cop entirely in the right to completely tenderize the guy? Still not sure about that...Last edited by Uncle Cracker; 04-30-2010, 10:32 AM.Comment
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Your feelings show that you are a man of compassion but you should purge any self doubt immediately. Hello.........I think they should throw you a parade._________________________
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I am glad things turned out that way and that he was the only one who got hurt.
I am also glad you didn't have to use your weapon because that would have all kinds of legal and psychological implications. Better to avoid it if possible.Jeff
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Neither am I, but it is. That's why I'm bugging. I guess it's because I know I could have just run him off or hurt him less. I'm embarrassed I lost control.
I'm reminded of a time years back when I sat on a jury, in judgment of a derelict drunk who threw a motorcycle helmet at a police officer, who promptly whipped out his nightstick and broke half the bones in the drunk's body with it. I was conflicted then, as well. Sure, the drunk was stupid, and deserved to go to jail, but was the cop entirely in the right to completely tenderize the guy? Still not sure about that...
That said, can I say I'm in awe of you now, without tripping your guilt-meter any more? I'm picturing you like a Jack Reacher (Lee Child character), and am sure to be bragging about 'this friend of mine' who bought a mugger down. What can I say, I live vicariously !
I have never been in any similar, and am very relieved about that : I don't think I'd come out of it with anything intact - my person, my wallet or my dignity. If and when it ever happens, I wish I am alone (yeah, I'd rather be a closet coward), and that I'm wearing brown pants. No, that's not a joke .It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
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A KNIFE...THAT'S NOT A KNIFE...THIS IS A KNIFE!! Remember that famous line by Mick Dundee? You just weren't equipped for the night beat. It's unfortunate you had a confrontation like that, it could have gone another way. That's never happened to me. I guess I might look more like a muger than a mugee.
Remorse? You shouldn't feel remorse for a guy like that. To do what he attempted calls for no sympathy. Did he learn a lesson? Probably not. I doubt I would have been as easy on him.
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