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  • Russianwolf
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 3152
    • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
    • One of them there Toy saws

    #16
    Originally posted by atgcpaul
    I'm roughly on a one week cutting cycle. I should probably be at 5 days but
    a guy's gotta' work. I cut at the 2nd to highest setting on my electric and
    I probably walk at the same speed as I would with my parents' gas mower.
    No problems.

    I cut high to give myself that false sense of security that I'm choking out my
    weeds.
    I did the opposite with the corded B&D, cut pretty low. Even if I skipped a week and the grass got really tall it would cut through without a problem. I don't know if the battery powered ones would work as well, but the cord lets it pull all the juice it needs to keep the torque up.

    And for a really big lot, more than about an acre or so, I'd be looking at a Desiel mower since there's no way I'd be cutting it even weekly.
    Mike
    Lakota's Dad

    If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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    • GoFish104
      Forum Newbie
      • Aug 2003
      • 67
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      #17
      Wow ain't technology great... my tablesaw is 110v 15amp but only produces 1.5 hp. This lawnmower they claim has 4.02 hp at 36v 16amp. Maybe I'm just cynical but those numbers don't add up for me. Maybe someone can explain & show me where I'm wrong but it looks to me like it would take a lot more volts or amps to produce 4 hp. Jack

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      • BobSch
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2004
        • 4385
        • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
        • BT3100

        #18
        Originally posted by GoFish104
        Wow ain't technology great... my tablesaw is 110v 15amp but only produces 1.5 hp. This lawnmower they claim has 4.02 hp at 36v 16amp. Maybe I'm just cynical but those numbers don't add up for me. Maybe someone can explain & show me where I'm wrong but it looks to me like it would take a lot more volts or amps to produce 4 hp. Jack
        Lesse... 1 HP = ~746 watts so 1W = .00134 HP

        So 36V * 16A = 576W * .00134 = .77 HP

        Nope, doesn't work for me.
        Bob

        Bad decisions make good stories.

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        • germdoc
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 3567
          • Omaha, NE
          • BT3000--the gray ghost

          #19
          I have a similar Craftsman model. I like the Briggs and Stratton gas engines. They seem to run forever.

          Back when I lived in Kansas I had a ZTR Dixon. Boy was that fun to drive. I used to look forward to mowing the yard. They were a bit of a PITA to adjust, but if I had anything more than half an acre it's what I'd like to have.
          Last edited by germdoc; 06-18-2008, 10:35 AM.
          Jeff


          “Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing”--Voltaire

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          • dkerfoot
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2004
            • 1094
            • Holland, Michigan
            • Craftsman 21829

            #20
            Originally posted by cabinetman
            I don't know about you "Central" guys, but down here, mine needs cutting about every 4 days during this time of year. Cords or batteries wouldn't cut it.
            .
            There ain't no grass in Florida and what little there is grows sideways! Ya gotta get up into the Northland to get real grass.
            Doug Kerfoot
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            • Russianwolf
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              • Jan 2004
              • 3152
              • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
              • One of them there Toy saws

              #21
              Originally posted by BobSch
              Lesse... 1 HP = ~746 watts so 1W = .00134 HP

              So 36V * 16A = 576W * .00134 = .77 HP

              Nope, doesn't work for me.
              Probably has something to do with this

              The B&D CMM1000 cordless electric lawn mower has a 5 HP battery. This is 5 HP gas equivalent at peak torque. A gasoline lawn mower will operate at full horsepower until the last drop of gasoline is used. The electric lawn mower will operate at or near full horsepower for most of the cutting time, and then gradually loses horsepower until a recharge is required.
              Mike
              Lakota's Dad

              If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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              • LCHIEN
                Super Moderator
                • Dec 2002
                • 21682
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #22
                i think for every mower type there is an ideal lawn, or vice versa.

                things to consider:
                if electric (corded) vs electric (cordless) - if the yard is small and clear enough and the distance to the plug reasonable the corded will give you more consistent service and less trouble and less weight (Easier to maneuver) although you'll have to wind up the cord each time.

                A battery will have diminishing capacity over time and charge cycles, at some point it may not have enough charge capacity to finish the lawn even though it did when new. At that point you'll have to get a new battery or mower or cut in two sessions.

                A electric mower I think lacks the torque for really tough jobs. Maybe in Brooklyn the grass is wimpy but in Texas or the south we have thick st.augustine grass which can grow like crazy in the summer during rainy days - miss a cutting and you'll have a lawn impossible to cut with an electric mower

                Batteries will require replacement in probably three years, might be a significant expense compared to the puchase price. Here in Tx we have a long mowing season, (maybe March to October or even November) the mower repair guys tell me a gas mower lasts about 7-8 seasons and the rings are shot requiring a rebuild or for not much more, replacement. Make sure you change your oil religiously.

                BTW, the problem with the thong sandals she's wearing in the pic is not the green feet that will result but maybe the missing toes that can result. Surprisingly, we don't have recommendations for steel-toed shoes while lawnmowing, in the US.
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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                • dkerfoot
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1094
                  • Holland, Michigan
                  • Craftsman 21829

                  #23
                  Originally posted by germdoc
                  I think you're a little mixed up. Usually, the lady marries you BECAUSE of your mower. It's only a few years after marriage that the battery starts to lose its charge....then she looks for a guy with a bigger, more powerful mower....
                  I have lots of possible replies, but after a bit of consideration, I'll let them pass.


                  Actually, my wife came with a pretty good dowry! Besides the mower, she had a much nicer grill than me and a big shop-vac too!

                  Needless to say, when we moved her furniture in the front door, all of mine was being pushed out the back door.
                  Doug Kerfoot
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                  • RAFlorida
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 1179
                    • Green Swamp in Central Florida. Gator property!
                    • Ryobi BT3000

                    #24
                    What, what, what?!

                    Doug, from your bio, you never lived in Florida. We have so much grass we ship it up north so the snowbirds can have something for their yards! lol And I was born and raised just to your southeast, good ol' state of Ohio. Up there we had to mow maybe 3 months in the years. Down here it's roughly 6 months, and down around Cabinetman I wouldn't be surprised nearly 8 months! lol Besides Doug, we got gators and you don't....

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                    • LCHIEN
                      Super Moderator
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 21682
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #25
                      Originally posted by cgallery
                      ...Those engineers should be beaten.
                      Please don't beat us... the marketing guys made us do it! yeah, that's it, it was the marketing guys!
                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                      • cabinetman
                        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 15216
                        • So. Florida
                        • Delta

                        #26
                        Originally posted by dkerfoot
                        There ain't no grass in Florida and what little there is grows sideways! Ya gotta get up into the Northland to get real grass.

                        That's the funniest thing I've heard today. You guys in the North don't have grass, you have peach fuzz. My 12 yr old grandson has thicker fuzz on his chin than you have grass. I've been in Michigan and seen what you call grass.

                        I start my lawnmower, and my grass just laughs at it and dares me to cut it. This is the minimum recommended South Florida homeowners lawn mower:
                        .

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                        • newood2
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 600
                          • Brooklyn, NY.
                          • BT3100-1

                          #27
                          Originally posted by germdoc
                          I think you're a little mixed up. Usually, the lady marries you BECAUSE of your mower. It's only a few years after marriage that the battery starts to lose its charge....then she looks for a guy with a bigger, more powerful mower....

                          Hey Jeff, thought you're suppose to keep the lawn clean on here. Funny.

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                          • newood2
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 600
                            • Brooklyn, NY.
                            • BT3100-1

                            #28
                            Originally posted by cabinetman
                            This is the minimum recommended South Florida homeowners lawn mower:
                            .

                            .
                            Hey cabinetman, that pimped-up lawn mower is not used for cutting grass it's used for racing on weekends. Who are you kidding.
                            Howie

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                            • cabinetman
                              Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 15216
                              • So. Florida
                              • Delta

                              #29
                              Originally posted by newood2
                              Hey cabinetman, that pimped-up lawn mower is not used for cutting grass it's used for racing on weekends. Who are you kidding.
                              Howie

                              Nope...this one is for that:
                              .

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                              • jonmulzer
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 946
                                • Indianapolis, IN

                                #30
                                To reply to what was said earlier about Lawn Boys, I agree they have went to pot recently. This spring I went to borrow a friend's mower that was a 3 year old Lawn Boy with the aluminum deck, B&S engine, etc. We could not get it to start. It would spark, it had fuel, just could not get it to start. I called a lawnmowing company and they swung by to mow.

                                I was doing that as an interim step because I had a mower at my father's, but had to go get it. It is a Weed Eater brand, at least 8 years old, B&S engine, front propelled. In the eight years my father and I have owned it it has never even once failed to start on the first pull. This time it had been in storage for 2+ years in a leaky shed, was completely dry on gas. I pulled the blade and sharpened it up, changed the oil for the first time in my memory, added gas and it fired right up.

                                It has been in storage since my father picked up a really old Lawn Boy off-brand 2 years ago for $125. I tore the engine apart since we were not sure what kind of maintenance it had. Also, it was wintertime, I was bored and I wanted an excuse to hang out with and help my father. I replaced the piston and rings (the old ones were fine though), rebuilt the carb (fine also), replaced all the belts (they were dry rotted), sharpened all the blades and slimed the tires. Upon tearing it apart I realized that they don't make mowers like that, at a reasonable price anymore.

                                These days you can pick up a push mower for ~$200. But you will buy one every other year. These two mowers have lasted for a long time and still have tons of life in them.
                                "A fine beer may be judged with just one sip, but it is better to be thoroughly sure"

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