Anyone using Shop Vac + Cyclone lid for DC?

[BrazosJake]

I'd like to hear from anyone using this setup for dust collection. How's it working for ya? Will it keep up with a jointer or planer?

I' thinking of dumping my cheesy 1hp dc to save space. If I face joint more than about 1/64 off a board, the inlet clogs.

[LCHIEN]

why don't you put the cyclone lid & can before the 1 HP DC?
You'll have far greater air flow than with a SV and it'll probably solve the inlet clogging isse with the DC.

Does your DC have an inlet screen or grid to keep items from hitting the impellor? This may be whats causing the DC to clog. A lot of people remove those grids.

when i used a small SV with my benchtop jointer-planer it frequently clogged filling the hose - the SV didn't move enough air to keep it flowing. A cyclone lid would not have solved that.

[cgallery]

+1 what Loring said, if your DC has an inlet screen/grid to protect the impeller, it needs to come off.

I do use a shop vac w/ a separator lid for my shop. I've plumbed the shop w/ the clear 2-1/2" piping from Rockler.

My jointer/planer is an Inca 8-5/8" unit and I've clogged the pipes once in 1.5 years. But there was a big cutoff from the table saw that somehow got into the pipes and that was the root cause.

[dbhost]

I did have that setup, and still use it to a limited extent, specifically for my jointer and planer... (they have 2.5" ports and are not easily upgradable). I did not have good luck with the hard plumbing after a while as I had too many bends in the line. Going with a trash can separator like Phil's design, and set up on a rolling cart just take that thing machine to machine and you are good to go!

[Garasaki]

Look up Phil Thein Separator

Either in the search engine here or on the general internet.

Best thing to happen to woodworking since electricity!!

[digger]

+1 what Loring said, if your DC has an inlet screen/grid to protect the impeller, it needs to come off.

I do use a shop vac w/ a separator lid for my shop. I've plumbed the shop w/ the clear 2-1/2" piping from Rockler.

My jointer/planer is an Inca 8-5/8" unit and I've clogged the pipes once in 1.5 years. But there was a big cutoff from the table saw that somehow got into the pipes and that was the root cause.

Do you have a picture of the shop vac w/ a separator lid ?

[dabeeler]

I use the clearvue cyclone/shop vac with the cyclone mounted on top of a 55 gal barrel and have clogged the neck of the cyclone with output from the planer.

[cgallery]

Do you have a picture of the shop vac w/ a separator lid ?

I have an entire site devoted to it:

http://www.cgallery.com/jpthien/cy.htm

[cgallery]

I use the clearvue cyclone/shop vac with the cyclone mounted on top of a 55 gal barrel and have clogged the neck of the cyclone with output from the planer.

That's interesting. What is the inside diameter of the inlet and outlet on the ClearVue?

Have you been able to slow the feed rate and reduce the amount you're taking off at the planer to prevent the clogging?

I have a goofy euro jointer/planer that only handles material up to 8-5/8" wide. It also doesn't have power feed (you have to push the stock through). Sometimes I push the stock pretty fast. OTOH, I don't tend to take too much off in each pass, either.

But I've never had a clog in the separator lid. Even while doing 8-1/2" material. I have clogged the 2-1/2" pipe that feeds the separator, but that was due to stupid layout that has been fixed.

The thing that DOES drive me nuts, though, is that I'm only using a 10-gallon can and I need something larger. Getting tired of emptying the thing.

[dabeeler]

I am using a Rigid 13" planer which does not have feed rate control. The clog occurs with heavier cuts which if I remember correctly is about 1/64 per full handle turn. Never gone higher than that. The inlet on the cyclone is standard shop vac hose size and decreases down in size to the outlet. Don't know that size without going out to the shop and measuring. The heavier cut material tends to not be able to exit the outlet as fast as it should thus causing a clog. I can peck on the side of the cyclone with the system stopped to get the material to fall through the outlet, just aggravating. I have not encountered this problem with lighter cuts or other machines, tablesaw, router, etc.

[cgallery]

Okay, thanks for the clarification on that. I thought it was getting clogged at the inlet, not the discharge hole. I'll be if they made the hole 1/2" larger it would work fine. 1", for sure.