QC air fittings - leaking

Collapse
This topic is closed.
X
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • LCHIEN
    Internet Fact Checker
    • Dec 2002
    • 21045
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    QC air fittings - leaking

    Is it common for QC air fittings to leak a small amount of air - audibly?
    I have a mix of HF and Husky and C-H brass fittings, the HF of course were really inexpensive. Not sure i can tell them apart anymore. But the fitting between the QC on the end of the hose and the stud on the tool frequently leak audibly, i can stop the leak by rotating the fitting and or applying some sideways force on it.

    Is this common for HF fittings or all fittings whether from HF or Husky or CH? Are the tolerances sloppy or is it a design issue.

    Trying to figure out where i should start...
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 11-05-2009, 12:01 AM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions
  • Uncle Cracker
    The Full Monte
    • May 2007
    • 7091
    • Sunshine State
    • BT3000

    #2
    I know most of mine do to some degree, even right out of the package. I think there are tolerance issues and differences between makers that make this a tough fix, unless you are willing to re-do all your fittings at one time to a single manufacturer, single lot.

    Comment

    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
      • 15216
      • So. Florida
      • Delta

      #3
      Originally posted by Uncle Cracker
      I know most of mine do to some degree, even right out of the package. I think there are tolerance issues and differences between makers that make this a tough fix, unless you are willing to re-do all your fittings at one time to a single manufacturer, single lot.

      I don't know if that's the absolute answer, but I usually do get them in bulk. I usually by 'Milton' and use them every day. If there's leakage, I check which fitting is the culprit (which ain't easy), and just pitch it. If you have a small tank, it can be kickin' on more than it needs to.
      .

      Comment

      • dbhost
        Slow and steady
        • Apr 2008
        • 9240
        • League City, Texas
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        I've got 3 of the QC sets from HF, and a fist full of old Milton fittings. I had to chuck one of my HF QC fittings as it leaked like a sieve... Everything else is tight. Mind you I had to do the same with my old Milton stuff until I got fittings that all, well... fit.

        No matter the MFG, it seems that QC fittings are pretty hit or miss in fit and finish. The HF ones seem no worse than the name brand ones. But they are certainly no better either...
        Please like and subscribe to my YouTube channel. Please check out and subscribe to my Workshop Blog.

        Comment

        • thrytis
          Senior Member
          • May 2004
          • 552
          • Concord, NC, USA.
          • Delta Unisaw

          #5
          I've noticed some differences in the innards of the female QC fittings. I've had problems with some from HF and Lowes leaking audibility, all of which you can see the exposed ball bearings inside that hold the fittings together. I found a different type (at Lowes) that has a rubber ring over the ball bearings to seal the connection. I think these were around $5 each, so a bit more expensive than the HF or cheap ones at Lowes, but i haven't noticed them leaking.
          Eric

          Comment

          • tjr
            Established Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 167
            • at the falls of the Ohio
            • BT3000 (1 3/4 of them)

            #6
            Have had pretty good luck with HF fittings, both the brass ones sold in sets and the steel ones included with some tools. The only thing I don't like is the the need to retract the ring on the female coupler while pushing in the male end, rather than just pushing in to connect.

            Perhaps a bad question, but here goes: Are you using a mix of automotive and industrial fittings? If they'd hook together at all, they'd probably leak.

            Also, based on past experience with water quick couplings, it appears that there's an o-ring way inside the female coupling - could it be that it's either gotten nicked or pushed out of its recess, maybe by a sharp male end?

            Comment

            • Charlie
              Banned
              • Jul 2009
              • 210

              #7
              Deleted by me.
              Last edited by Charlie; 11-12-2009, 04:03 PM.

              Comment

              • LCHIEN
                Internet Fact Checker
                • Dec 2002
                • 21045
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                Originally posted by tjr
                Have had pretty good luck with HF fittings, both the brass ones sold in sets and the steel ones included with some tools. The only thing I don't like is the the need to retract the ring on the female coupler while pushing in the male end, rather than just pushing in to connect.

                Perhaps a bad question, but here goes: Are you using a mix of automotive and industrial fittings? If they'd hook together at all, they'd probably leak.

                Also, based on past experience with water quick couplings, it appears that there's an o-ring way inside the female coupling - could it be that it's either gotten nicked or pushed out of its recess, maybe by a sharp male end?
                no they're all the same series (orange - the Automotive I think - )
                I know better than that. I don't even think they mate (although I've seen universal ones that accept either (stud?).)

                Originally posted by Charlie
                Buying them and useing them in sets is probably the answer...
                buying them in matched pairs makes no sense, the usefulness in QC's is the ability to mix and match at will.
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

                Comment

                • sscherin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 772
                  • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                  #9
                  About half the ones I get from HF leak to some degree or another..
                  The HF cast brass ones are the worst..

                  The ones I get from the pro tool store all hold great..
                  They look like they were machined.

                  I'll spend a extra buck to get a quality air fitting.
                  William's Law--
                  There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                  cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

                  Comment

                  • Bill in Buena Park
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1865
                    • Buena Park, CA
                    • CM 21829

                    #10
                    Loring,
                    I've had good luck with the HF air fittings, auto and industrial, and in the last 10 years I've only had 1 leak, but that was due to some strange oxidation on that fitting. The only HF QC couplings I've used were either auto or industrial only, not universal, and though they never leaked, I toss in favor of univeral QC couplings from Sears (the brass ones), which have worked great with both the auto and industrial from HF.
                    Bill in Buena Park

                    Comment

                    • dbhost
                      Slow and steady
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 9240
                      • League City, Texas
                      • Ryobi BT3100

                      #11
                      I should mention, the HF fitting I had that was no good was the stud, and not the part with the coupler. You could actually see that it wasn't machined right. It was the brass set.

                      Not sure what the diff between automotive and industrial is. I just know the old Milton stuff I used when I was a mechanic, fits with no leaks whatsoever to my HF fittings I bought last month...
                      Please like and subscribe to my YouTube channel. Please check out and subscribe to my Workshop Blog.

                      Comment

                      • LCHIEN
                        Internet Fact Checker
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 21045
                        • Katy, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 vintage 1999

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dbhost
                        ...

                        Not sure what the diff between automotive and industrial is. ...
                        automotive and industrial are two different standards - they look very similar but they don't fit each other. mainly the grooves and rings are different on the male studs.

                        at the stores they usually code the automotive with orange tape or tags and the industrial with yellow so they don't get confused since they look so much alike. I think there's even a third standard coded with blue i forget the name.

                        I think Milton calls the automotive series the "M" series.
                        Last edited by LCHIEN; 11-06-2009, 12:15 AM.
                        Loring in Katy, TX USA
                        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

                        Comment

                        • BobSch
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 4385
                          • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          I had a couple of HF sets that popped apart — usually when I was up a ladder or under something.
                          Bob

                          Bad decisions make good stories.

                          Comment

                          • Charlie
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 210

                            #14
                            Deleted by me.
                            Last edited by Charlie; 11-12-2009, 04:03 PM.

                            Comment

                            • LCHIEN
                              Internet Fact Checker
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 21045
                              • Katy, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 vintage 1999

                              #15
                              OK, the main problem was the end of my main hose leaking where I plugged the tools in. There's a small amount of play to misalign them, the leaks ocurred when the misalignment was maxed, if you held them so it was perfectly centered, it didn't leak but that's not a normal resting point.

                              So I did buy and check a new stud and female coupling from HD - a Husky part.
                              The hose female coupling was the culprit. When I put the new coupling in there was no leak with a couple of tools with studs I tried.

                              Well, the part I replaced was also a Husky - it was identical in nearly all respects including the stamping of the size and type on it. Well there was a couple of differences...
                              the opening on the bad one was .473" compared to .465" on the good one and the coupling had four balls (90 degrees separated) instead of three (120 degrees separated).
                              I looked and other couplings I have have three or four balls.

                              Anyway its the old Husky female QC coupling I had. Not the HF parts.
                              Last edited by LCHIEN; 11-08-2009, 06:07 PM.
                              Loring in Katy, TX USA
                              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

                              Comment

                              Working...