Started new garage

[twistsol]

Ever try to put up Tyvek in 30 mph wind? Gives a new meaning to garage sail. Didn't get very far this weekend, got called into work at 11:00 Saturday morning

[chopnhack]

I hear ya, my father and I tried to tarp the house while we were building it with a used billboard vinyl ad... driving wind and rain, very difficult. At least tyvek is thinner and more pliable

[twistsol]

Got a tarp over the roof this weekend, both garage doors and the service door are in. The electrician got back to me on Friday but it looks like the mason buried the ground bar in the wall. I also need to frame out an interior wall because the block is too high where the panel is going and it won't meet code due to height.

Photo taken from car as I was on my way to the airport

[chopnhack]

I don't understand the height of the panel issue.... Is the wiring stubbed through the masonry too high?

[twistsol]

I don't understand the height of the panel issue.... Is the wiring stubbed through the masonry too high?

The problem is that the block is 12" thick and 4 feet high where the building ground is ... on the right side of the service door from the outside. The framed wall is 5.5" thick leaving a 6'5" shelf inside. According to code, the top of the panel can't be more than a certain height ( I think 5'6") but regardless it is less than 4' + the height of the panel. Also, for 2' to either side, above, and from the floor to bottom of the panel, the wall must be flush with or behind the face of the panel. Even if I could get around the height issue, the thickness of the block prohibits the panel from being mounted in the 2x6 framing because the block would protrude beyond the face of the panel. I'd just move the panel to the front wall next to the door but ground rods are no longer acceptable and the ground needs to be tied into rebar of the footing.

The easiest solution is to build a floor to ceiling 2x4 wall about half an inch in front of the block to mount the panel in. I planned to do this anyway, just not to floor to ceiling, but the height of the block around the garage for insulation and to have a built in shelf everywhere. Basically I lose about 6' of shelf space this way.

I hope this makes sense because I've read it three or four times and it seems like rambling but I can't explain it better.

[os1kne]

Very nice looking shop!

I'm sorry if this was mentioned and I missed it - do you have a french drain or something similar to handle the runoff that looks likely to happen off the rear of the shop?

[chopnhack]

Makes perfect sense now :-) The roof color looks good in green. Have you already picked the exterior colors?

[twistsol]

Very nice looking shop!

I'm sorry if this was mentioned and I missed it - do you have a french drain or something similar to handle the runoff that looks likely to happen off the rear of the shop?

It's not visible in any of the pics, but there is a berm behind the shop to direct the water off to the side. We have essentially the same thing behind the house and with the exception of a 7" rain in an hour a couple of years ago, no problems at all. I still have a bit of work to do as the ground settled about 6" after it was backfilled. I also plan to put gutters on the back side to keep the roof runoff away from the foundation. Should be easy to clean them as the roof is only 2-3 and a half feet off the ground at the back.

Near the service door of the shop I'm having a drain put in that will run under the driveway to the yard on the other side.

[twistsol]

Makes perfect sense now :-) The roof color looks good in green. Have you already picked the exterior colors?

I haven't picked the colors but I'd have picked green as well. LOML and my daughters on the other hand picked the colors and called in the order. According to the bill I got from the lumber yard the roof is going to be burnt sienna, whatever color that is. The siding will match the house which is tan. I plan to spend time IN the shop so I don't care what color it is outside.

[chopnhack]

LOL... I don't know, you know women, give an inch.... and since they are already decorating the outside of the mancave.... does Dewalt make pink planers?

[twistsol]

A little bit more progress

Roof, siding soffit and fascia are done so other than lighting and landscaping, the exterior of the shop is finally complete.



Power was connected last week so I have 40 empty spots in a 200 amp service. I got the electrical permit this week and plan to run twelve 20 amp circuits each with 10/3 so I can swap them out to 220 in the future if I need to. It's more money now but much less aggravation in the future. I'm hoping to get it insulated and sheet rocked before the snow flies.

[pelligrini]

Looks Great!

You going to put sheathing under the sheetrock to accept screws or nails for whatever you want to hang? Might consider using some of that fiberglass reinforced gypsum panels too. I've seen it take a screw pretty well.

It's too late now, and maybe out of the original budget, but I just had a nice design idea. Instead of the gable end roof, you could have just continued the slope up from the garage and created a mezzanine on the back half. Would have given you some more storage space, and also get some natural light in too. Looks like the floor level would have cleared the back grade.

[twistsol]

Shop Update

Almost a year since this project began and I passed the electrical rough in inspection today with notes, no light in the storage attic and I need to separate neutrals and grounds. The spray foam guys are coming in the next week or so to get it insulated. No snow here yet so I may actually meet my goal of getting it insulated before the snow flies.

I hit the road until November 8th tomorrow morning so no more progress for a while.

[Black wallnut]

Good to hear Chris. Hopefully the neutrals and grounds are already on separate busses.

[dbhost]

That's awesome... Hopefully you can get that electrical squared away PDQ and be 100% ready to go before it gets real cold!