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  • 4x4 untreated pine. Splitting

    Is there a way to keep a 4x4 of untreated SYP from the lumber yard to NOT split?

    I went through an entire bunk of 4x4x8s to find one that was straight, true, and had the heart wood pretty much dead center. I brought it home. I set it aside and turned it daily to keep it straight.

    Well, it's straight, but every inch of it has a split on one side or the other or two. So, not one inch of it in length can be used without a cracked side.

    I'm trying to get about 3 inch cubes out of it. I only NEED 2. But as I said, not one inch out of 8 feet is un-split on all four sides

    ARGHH!

  • #2
    Well, I've been scouring the web... I don't think it can be done... So, I either do a glue up or make boxes.

    While I'm pondering that, if you have any ideas... Lemme know!

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    • #3
      And, I just discovered that what I'm trying to duplicate is, indeed, glued up. Well, at least it's not a hollow block, that would require jewelry box precision for something "crafty."

      Lord! I'm always over thinking everything! Makes too much work out of simple things. Sigh.

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      • #4
        One reason it all split is you piIckes heart wood for the center. When wood dries it shrinks, and how bad it cracks is directly proportional to how far it is from the center. If you had picked wood with no center it MIGHT not have split as bad..... but would probably warped just the same. SYP is not the best hobby wood to work with for sure.

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        • #5
          When overseas, at home centers and lumber yards, all of their equivalent 4x4s were sawn the length down the middle (to the center of the board) on one side to introduce a forced split. It prevented multiple splits in other places. It aggravated the stew out of me as I could not find solid 4x4s.
          Hank Lee

          Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by leehljp View Post
            When overseas, at home centers and lumber yards, all of their equivalent 4x4s were sawn the length down the middle (to the center of the board) on one side to introduce a forced split. It prevented multiple splits in other places. It aggravated the stew out of me as I could not find solid 4x4s.
            Yeah, I read about that method being used extensively in Japan

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            • #7
              A few years back, i bought some cedar 4x4 that were solid with no splits, at Lowes.
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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              • #8
                Well! I just looked and none of our area wide Lowe's stores carry it!

                B.O.B. doesn't carry it in the area either...
                Last edited by oakchas; 03-17-2019, 01:27 PM.

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                • #9
                  I have been buying untreated 4 X 4's at Lowe's in Joplin, Missouri. I have very little problems with them. I make Yard Dice out of them!
                  "I just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in."-Kenny Rogers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by billwmeyer View Post
                    I have been buying untreated 4 X 4's at Lowe's in Joplin, Missouri. I have very little problems with them. I make Yard Dice out of them!
                    Those look great... And I see that the center heart wood is off on one corner, instead of dead center as I had requested... And as stated above by capncarl...

                    Hmmmm. Do you cut and finish them as soon as you get them home, or...?

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                    • billwmeyer
                      billwmeyer commented
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                      I do both. I usually cut them within a few days, but I have some in the shop that I bought a few months ago. I also have about 50 dice cut before Thanksgiving but I haven't sanded or burned the spots on them yet.

                  • #11
                    Most of the wood that I use now is green or itís moisture level is unknown. Iím not concerned about the moisture level as some people are and have found that when I cut a tiny tree out of green wood it dries and cracks about as bad as when using properly dried wood. I donít think it should crack, being already dried but I think if is just stress in the wood. That would explain why some species crack more than others, especially SYP. They grow like a weed and are planted close together to encourage competition for sunlight and less limb production. They whip around in the wind like an old CB antenna. If I have a piece that Iíve made that Iím not happy where it cracks I simply fill up the crack with epoxy mixed with powdered fiberglass and color to suit the piece. Sometimes the repair is barely detectable and sometimes it is an accent mark.

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