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  • Jim Padgett
    Forum Newbie
    • Apr 2006
    • 8
    • Richmond VA
    • BT3100

    #1

    Dust Collection

    I only work outside, and my shop vac filter plugs up quickly. I was wondering if a low end dust collection system ( portable ) is all I need?
    I was looking at something in the range of 500 cfm only to be connected to a single device at a time would be ok for me. I don't intend to move indoors and if I do I would invest in a suitable system at that time.
  • kmk
    Established Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 415
    • .Portland, Oregon
    • BT3100-1

    #2
    I like this one

    http://www.woodpeck.com/34hpdustcollector.html

    but not its price...

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    • maxparot
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 1421
      • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
      • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

      #3
      Originally posted by Jim Padgett
      I only work outside, and my shop vac filter plugs up quickly. I was wondering if a low end dust collection system ( portable ) is all I need?
      I was looking at something in the range of 500 cfm only to be connected to a single device at a time would be ok for me. I don't intend to move indoors and if I do I would invest in a suitable system at that time.
      Maybe an inline particle separator would keep your shopvac from getting clogged up as often. For single tool use outdoors a shopvac has advantages over a small DC. Better suction for one. And I'd bet the actually the cfm of the shopvac wouldn't be too far off of the actual cfm of a small DC.

      Outdoors a respirator type dust mask is all you need to protect your lungs. I'd suggest that with either a DC or a shopvac anyway.
      Opinions are like gas;
      I don't mind hearing it, but keep it to yourself if it stinks.

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      • bigsteel15
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 1079
        • Edmonton, AB
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        Originally posted by Jim Padgett
        I only work outside, and my shop vac filter plugs up quickly. I was wondering if a low end dust collection system ( portable ) is all I need?
        I was looking at something in the range of 500 cfm only to be connected to a single device at a time would be ok for me. I don't intend to move indoors and if I do I would invest in a suitable system at that time.
        I wood suggest this (small one)
        http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...t=1,42401&ap=1
        I used it for awhile and still use the big one on my 1 HP DC.


        or this
        http://www.woodpeck.com/largeseparator.html
        Actually this isn't the woodpeck one I was thinking of. they have a 2-1/2" one that fits a 5 gallon pail.
        Go with the LV one or similar.
        Brian

        Welcome to the school of life
        Where corporal punishment is alive and well.

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        • brooks
          Established Member
          • May 2006
          • 106

          #5
          Bigsteel, where is a good place to get the hoses? Would you know if one of the trash-can separator lids is quieter than the other?

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          • Jim Padgett
            Forum Newbie
            • Apr 2006
            • 8
            • Richmond VA
            • BT3100

            #6
            Thanks for the tips

            I did not know of the lid separators.... thanks a bunch..

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            • LinuxRandal
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 4890
              • Independence, MO, USA.
              • bt3100

              #7
              Stupid question

              If he went with one of those seperators (supposed to catch the big stuff) wouldn't he be better to use one of those shop vac bags? That would help keep the filter clean, right?
              She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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              • mdutch
                Established Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 140
                • Dallas, TX, USA.

                #8
                Has anyone built the "Wood Mag" dust collection system using a Penn State Systems portable blower? I was wondering how its "field performance" was vs other DC systems...
                Dutch·man Pronunciation (dchmn)n.
                3. Something used to conceal faulty construction.
                Another DFW BT3'er!

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                • Chris_B
                  Established Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 216
                  • Cupertino, CA

                  #9
                  This mini-cyclone from Clear Vue is pricey ($165 delivered), but would certainly be very effective. Check the bottom of the page.



                  Be sure to check out the video. Very impressive.

                  Chris

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                  • bigsteel15
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1079
                    • Edmonton, AB
                    • Ryobi BT3100

                    #10
                    Originally posted by brooks
                    Bigsteel, where is a good place to get the hoses? Would you know if one of the trash-can separator lids is quieter than the other?
                    Depending on what sources you have nearby or if online is preferred.

                    I bought the LV polyurethane for 2 reasons. I live in Edmonton and don't always have the heat on in the shop and becasue I like the clear hose. Kind of pricey though compared to standard.
                    http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...t=1,42401&ap=1

                    BTW
                    I also love these clamps
                    http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...t=1,42401&ap=1

                    Sure is nice having LV in town.


                    any of the online suppliers have grey PVC hose.

                    Originally posted by LinuxRandal
                    If he went with one of those seperators (supposed to catch the big stuff) wouldn't he be better to use one of those shop vac bags? That would help keep the filter clean, right?
                    I used the disposable bag in my SV because I didn't know how efficient the cyclone lid was. I would still recommend it becasue the only stuff that does get to the SV is the super fine dust and of course that clogs filters the fastest. With the bag in there it will last a very long time.

                    !!Just be very careful of metal in the wood. I hit an aluminum nail without realizing it and started the bag smoldering. The spark went right past the trashcan. Being aluminum, I didn't even know I had hit it unitl my SV was blowing smoke.
                    Brian

                    Welcome to the school of life
                    Where corporal punishment is alive and well.

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                    • mac_daddy
                      Forum Newbie
                      • May 2006
                      • 84
                      • Sugar Land, TX
                      • BT3000

                      #11
                      Good shop vac to start with?

                      Newbie BT3000 user, just got one used and am getting it ready for use. Former user seemed to just use the bag since the housing was caked in old sawdust.

                      I'd like to use one of those cyclone lids on a 5-gallon plastic pail. But what sort of shop vac should I invest in? I'm returning back to woodwork, had about 2 years of jr high shop back in the late 70s.

                      I saw Sears had a craftsman 15 gallon wet/dry SV on sale for around $50.00. Any suggestions?

                      Thanks!

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                      • LCHIEN
                        Super Moderator
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 21765
                        • Katy, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 vintage 1999

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mac_daddy
                        Newbie BT3000 user, just got one used and am getting it ready for use. Former user seemed to just use the bag since the housing was caked in old sawdust.

                        I'd like to use one of those cyclone lids on a 5-gallon plastic pail. But what sort of shop vac should I invest in? I'm returning back to woodwork, had about 2 years of jr high shop back in the late 70s.

                        I saw Sears had a craftsman 15 gallon wet/dry SV on sale for around $50.00. Any suggestions?

                        Thanks!
                        that would probably be a good starter.
                        Loring in Katy, TX USA
                        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                        • maxparot
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 1421
                          • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
                          • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

                          #13
                          The Sears 15 gallon should do the trick. Also HD was running a deal on Ridgid shopvacs over $69 you get a $40 gift card.

                          Other than that I'd consider using a Trash can separator instead of a 5 gallon pail type. They would both do the job but you'll be filling up the 5 gallon pail often and drawing sawdust into the shopvac and that would clog the filter too often. The trash pail gives you a lot more capacity and less chance of draw sawdust into the shopvac filter.
                          Opinions are like gas;
                          I don't mind hearing it, but keep it to yourself if it stinks.

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                          • mac_daddy
                            Forum Newbie
                            • May 2006
                            • 84
                            • Sugar Land, TX
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            Yeah, I saw that Ridgid deal and hit it. Can't beat a $30 shop vac from Ridgid (unless it's free)

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                            • sacherjj
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 813
                              • Indianapolis, IN, USA.
                              • BT3100-1

                              #15
                              The easiest way to way to eliminate the shop vac filter clogging is to use the bags inside. I do that and get full suction until the bag fills up. That is all I do with my shop vac and I love the setup. I've considered using a pre-filter cyclone, but it would annoy me to drag this along with the vac.
                              Joe Sacher

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