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  • kmk
    Established Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 415
    • .Portland, Oregon
    • BT3100-1

    #1

    New Owner - Assembly issues...

    I was putting together the saw yesterday and I
    messed up with throatplate screw's tip. I had
    to drill into it for using screw extractor to
    get it out. Can I get this screw in HD or lowes?
    Or should I call Ryobi? What type is it?

    And, I need ZCTPs. What is the best (and cheap)
    source to get them? thanks
  • LarryG
    The Full Monte
    • May 2004
    • 6693
    • Off The Back
    • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

    #2
    The throat plate screws are ordinary 10-24 flatheads, available anywhere for pennies apiece.

    Best "source" for ZCTPs is either to buy them from someone who is parting out an accessory kit (see Member Classifieds), or make your own. I've not made any myself but there are many here who have and can walk you through it, if need be.
    Larry

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    • BobSch
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2004
      • 4385
      • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
      • BT3100

      #3
      You can get blank ZCTPs from Jeff at T-Nuts http://t-nuts.com/bt3c/ (along with all the hardware you'll ever need for building your own jigs.

      Bob

      Bad decisions make good stories.

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      • kmk
        Established Member
        • Jan 2006
        • 415
        • .Portland, Oregon
        • BT3100-1

        #4
        Ok! Screw issue is fixed. ZCTPs are out of stock on T-Nuts.

        I've got another question. I'm bit confused on mounting SMT table. Those horizontal runners at the bottom of SMT.. do they sit on front & back rail tracks? I was able to mount but only one of the runner sat on the track and the other wasnt. Also, on which direction it should be installed? ie. the hole for the attachment bolt should be close to the front rail or back?

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        • WEG
          Established Member
          • Nov 2003
          • 298
          • Nahant, MA.

          #5
          Hi KMK;

          Check with Lee the "Sharkguard guy" for a ZCTP. Lots of threads here about ZCTP's. Do a search... Hope this helps.
          And Welcome Aboard!

          WEG

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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 21745
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            quote:Originally posted by kmk

            Ok! Screw issue is fixed. ZCTPs are out of stock on T-Nuts.

            I've got another question. I'm bit confused on mounting SMT table. Those horizontal runners at the bottom of SMT.. do they sit on front & back rail tracks? I was able to mount but only one of the runner sat on the track and the other wasnt. Also, on which direction it should be installed? ie. the hole for the attachment bolt should be close to the front rail or back?
            Yes, they should ride on both rails.
            when your circmstances happen, usually its beause the rails aren't installed correctly, either one's not in the bracket correctly wo theiy're not parallel or one rail is mounted upside down.



            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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            • Tim Clark
              Forum Newbie
              • Jan 2006
              • 99
              • Bangor, Maine, USA.

              #7
              For regular cross cutting you want to mount the SMT with the black base extending beyond the front of the saw. You can reverse it to have it out of your way when ripping, etc. The SMT should rest and glide easily on the top tracks of both rails until you clamp them down. If they don't you could have a problem recheck your set up and if they still don't fit you may want to call customer support or return the saw to HD. Some of the more seasoned WWs here may have other solutions. (Just a thought, but make sure the SMT clamp levers
              are all the way up before placing it on the rails.)
              Tim

              Outside of a dog a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog it's just too dark to read.

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              • kmk
                Established Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 415
                • .Portland, Oregon
                • BT3100-1

                #8
                I'm still struggling with installing the SMT. Here are couple of pics. As you can see, one of the runner under the SMT can ride on the front rail but on the back. The runners under the SMT are ~22" apart but the rails (front and back) ~24" are apart. So, how could they ride on the rails? I tried installing the back rail different ways but always the distance between rails were ~24".

                Either I'm so dumb or my SMT table assembled incorrectly?








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                • kmk
                  Established Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 415
                  • .Portland, Oregon
                  • BT3100-1

                  #9
                  sorry about the pics attached twice.

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                  • Black wallnut
                    cycling to health
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4715
                    • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
                    • BT3k 1999

                    #10
                    front rail profile:



                    Rear rail profile:


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                    • LCHIEN
                      Super Moderator
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 21745
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #11
                      quote:Originally posted by kmk

                      I'm still struggling with installing the SMT. Here are couple of pics. As you can see, one of the runner under the SMT can ride on the front rail but on the back. The runners under the SMT are ~22" apart but the rails (front and back) ~24" are apart. So, how could they ride on the rails? I tried installing the back rail different ways but always the distance between rails were ~24".

                      Either I'm so dumb or my SMT table assembled incorrectly?


                      First you have it on backwards for usual use, the long black part is usually out to the front of the saw.

                      Secondly, you have it offset by a half an inch. to the front (if you were putting it on backwards as is allowed if you aren't using it.

                      The top of each rail has a inverted "T" slot, and then its got two vertical faces on either side.
                      The levers on the SMT end in rounded cams, each cam should just be to the outside of those vertical faces I described.

                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                      • LCHIEN
                        Super Moderator
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 21745
                        • Katy, TX, USA.
                        • BT3000 vintage 1999

                        #12
                        quote:Originally posted by kmk

                        I'm still struggling with installing the SMT. Here are couple of pics. As you can see, one of the runner under the SMT can ride on the front rail but on the back. The runners under the SMT are ~22" apart but the rails (front and back) ~24" are apart. So, how could they ride on the rails? I tried installing the back rail different ways but always the distance between rails were ~24".

                        Either I'm so dumb or my SMT table assembled incorrectly?


                        One picture you have shows the front rail seen from the left.
                        You've got what you call a runner sitting on the top of the front rail. he top fo the rail has what you think is a groove, actually its a T-Slot. On Either side of the T-slot are vertical faces.

                        The "runner" should be sitting next to the back-side vertical face. The lever ends in a rounded cam. The cam should contact the front vertical face. The "runner" and the cam shold straddle the T-slot. That will move the whole assembly back about half an inch and the back rail will be straddled as well.

                        Also it looks like you have the whole thing on backwards for normal use although it is allowed to mount it backwards if you want in certain cases. The longish black part goes to the front of the saw for normal use.

                        Loring in Katy, TX USA
                        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                        • kmk
                          Established Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 415
                          • .Portland, Oregon
                          • BT3100-1

                          #13
                          Ok! I guess originally I had it properly installed but I wasnt sure. In the above pic I had it installed incorrectly.

                          Here few additional pics.







                          Now, it does move smoothly and the table also moves smoothly on its track.

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                          • Black wallnut
                            cycling to health
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4715
                            • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
                            • BT3k 1999

                            #14
                            You do know that your SMT base is mounted backwards, right? Also your SMT fence is also backwards!
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                            • LarryG
                              The Full Monte
                              • May 2004
                              • 6693
                              • Off The Back
                              • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                              #15
                              quote:Originally posted by Black wallnut

                              You do know that your SMT base is mounted backwards, right? Also your SMT fence is also backwards!
                              Well ... that's a POV thing. The fence as shown IS correct in relation to the blade, but wrong in relation to the sliding part of the SMT. I think it might be less confusing to kmk to say that when he reverses the entire SMT, he will then need to also reverse the fence on the SMT. Or, alternatively, remove the fence, set it aside, reverse the SMT, and then reinstall the fence so it is facing the same way overall as the picture shows.

                              Gosh, I hope my attempt at clarification doesn't make matters worse ... []
                              Larry

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