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  • mdutch
    Established Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 140
    • Dallas, TX, USA.

    #1

    T-Nuts vs Metric Bolts

    I've read this site for over a year, but never posted, so... Hello.

    When I first got my BT3x, I didn't know squat about BT3Central, or T-Nuts, or anything much beyond the manual. I had an application for a >45 angle I had to cut a bunch. Seeing the nifty slots in the miter fence, I went to my local hardware store, fence-in-hand, and found some metric bolts that fit the slot perfectly. I built my jig, put wing-nuts on the bolts coming off the fence, and solved my problem.

    So my stupid noobie question is: Is there a reason why most folks use T-nuts instead of other hardware like the metric bolts?
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  • maxparot
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 1421
    • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
    • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

    #2
    T-Nuts not only are available to fit your fence but also in sizes to fit the slots in the rails of the BT3x. This makes them an excellent choice for attaching auxilary tables, extending the rails, (for wide table) and attaching other jigs to the BT3x.
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    • Jim Boyd
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2002
      • 1766
      • Montgomery, Texas, USA.
      • Delta Unisaw

      #3
      quote:Originally posted by mdutch

      I've read this site for over a year, but never posted, so... Hello.

      When I first got my BT3x, I didn't know squat about BT3Central, or T-Nuts, or anything much beyond the manual. I had an application for a >45 angle I had to cut a bunch. Seeing the nifty slots in the miter fence, I went to my local hardware store, fence-in-hand, and found some metric bolts that fit the slot perfectly. I built my jig, put wing-nuts on the bolts coming off the fence, and solved my problem.

      So my stupid noobie question is: Is there a reason why most folks use T-nuts instead of other hardware like the metric bolts?
      Other than convience, Nope! I never used t-nuts when I had my Bt3k.
      Jim in Texas and Sicko Ryobi Cult Member ©

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      • LCHIEN
        Super Moderator
        • Dec 2002
        • 22071
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        Thing about t-slots, hex nnuts and bolts can be sloppy, there's a range of sizes that will slide in but won't rotate, thus being captured.

        So some metric sizes will fit as you found, and some SAE bolts will fit.

        So there's no right or wrong. In the US, most of us have easier access to SAE than metric due to years and years of the former.
        Also the BT3x is built on SAE-sized hardware, not metric.

        So before T-nuts everybody winged it. With T-nuts.com, there's a source of guaranteed to fit nuts... I guess its partly a convenience factor.

        There's almost always more than one way to do things in woodworking.
        What size metric bolt did you find fits well, I'll put it in the FAQ as an alternate solution?

        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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        • silverfox
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2003
          • 2863
          • Richland Center WI, USA.
          • BT3100

          #5
          What Loring said.....and welcome to the cult, Mark!
          Mike

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          • leehljp
            The Full Monte
            • Dec 2002
            • 8798
            • Tunica, MS
            • BT3000/3100

            #6
            Welcome Mark! I made a jig to make greater than 45° angles too. It has been VERY helpful for me and I even use a similar one on my compound miter saw.

            We are always looking for other ideas in jigs. Show us how you did yours. Post some pictures if you can.

            Mine, as show here does not show the way that I eventually clamped it but the basic layout is here.
            Hank Lee

            Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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            • mdutch
              Established Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 140
              • Dallas, TX, USA.

              #7
              Hey guys, thanks. Y'all seem as warped as the lumber at HD.
              I'll invest in some T-Nuts. Just wondered what all the buzz was about.

              leehljp: I made mine from a 45 triangle of 3/4 ply banded with angle aluminum. I hung it up but will check its accuracy if I need it again! I'll try to get a pix posted.

              Last project: My kids are in college now so I have TIME again. Told the wife I was "redecorating" the garage. I tackled the Wood Magazine Lumber Storage Rack. It saved my butt with compact storage for lumber. May not have the volume some of you need, but for a weekend warrior like me, it's perfect. I'll post their pix as mine looks the same except I put the sheetgoods bin on the left side.
              Dutch·man Pronunciation (dchmn)n.
              3. Something used to conceal faulty construction.
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              • LCHIEN
                Super Moderator
                • Dec 2002
                • 22071
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                quote:Originally posted by mdutch

                Hey guys, thanks. Y'all seem as warped as the lumber at HD.
                I'll invest in some T-Nuts. Just wondered what all the buzz was about.

                leehljp: I made mine from a 45 triangle of 3/4 ply banded with angle aluminum. I hung it up but will check its accuracy if I need it again! I'll try to get a pix posted.

                Last project: My kids are in college now so I have TIME again. Told the wife I was "redecorating" the garage. I tackled the Wood Magazine Lumber Storage Rack. It saved my butt with compact storage for lumber. May not have the volume some of you need, but for a weekend warrior like me, it's perfect. I'll post their pix as mine looks the same except I put the sheetgoods bin on the left side.
                ...
                Ha, I saw you sig and it hit me. You're as warped as the rest of us.
                SLightly subtle, the way you convert Holland to Dutch and the pun with a dutchman (patch); clever. Welcome to the group, feel free to comment. How can you hold your tongue for a year?
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                • mdutch
                  Established Member
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 140
                  • Dallas, TX, USA.

                  #9
                  quote:Originally posted by LCHIEN
                  Ha, I saw you sig and it hit me. You're as warped as the rest of us.
                  SLightly subtle, the way you convert Holland to Dutch and the pun with a dutchman (patch); clever. Welcome to the group, feel free to comment. How can you hold your tongue for a year?
                  Easy. I've been pulling the sheetrock, insulating, rewiring and panelling it. NOW I'm ready to build my shop. Other excuses... two kids in college, and here's what else takes up room in the garage. Which is why my dust collection system goes in VERY soon.
                  Dutch·man Pronunciation (dchmn)n.
                  3. Something used to conceal faulty construction.
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                  • gad5264
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1407
                    • Columbus, Ohio, USA
                    • BT3000/BT3100NIB

                    #10
                    mdutch, I know of worse things that you could be sharing your shop space with. Nice car.
                    Grant
                    "GO Buckeyes"

                    My projects: http://community.webshots.com/user/gad5264

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                    • mdutch
                      Established Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 140
                      • Dallas, TX, USA.

                      #11
                      quote:Originally posted by gad5264

                      mdutch, I know of worse things that you could be sharing your shop space with. Nice car.
                      Like my wife.... {bada bing!}
                      Dutch·man Pronunciation (dchmn)n.
                      3. Something used to conceal faulty construction.
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                      • KenBurris
                        Established Member
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 439
                        • Cincinnati, OH, USA.

                        #12
                        Mark, you need to check AtH's <s>Jensen</s> posting in the archives. I'll look for the URL in a bit.


                        Nice looking Jensen, especially for a '74
                        Ken in Cincinnati

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                        • KenBurris
                          Established Member
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 439
                          • Cincinnati, OH, USA.

                          #13
                          quote:Originally posted by KenBurris

                          Mark, you need to check AtH's Wedge posting in the archives. I'll look for the URL in a bit.
                          Here it is
                          http://www.bt3central.com/forum/topi...erms=the,wedge,

                          AtH (Atilla the Hun) has been AWOL for a while, but he's quite a character. He had health issues last time we heard from him, and now it appears his website is offline also.
                          Ken in Cincinnati

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                          • DUD
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3309
                            • Jonesboro, Arkansas, USA.
                            • Ryobi BT3000

                            #14
                            Mark I have tried other various ways to attach to the BT3X, and I find Jeff's T-Nuts work the best overall for me. Bill
                            5 OUT OF 4 PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND FRACTIONS.

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