BT3100 vs Ridgid TS3650 Help!

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  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22060
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #16
    quote:Originally posted by LinuxRandal

    quote:Originally posted by leehljp

    Ridgid's lifetime warranty is a point of contention to some people. The warranty is lifetime against defects - a great selling point until the motor burns out two years down the road and they tell you that is normal wear and tear.

    Life Time Warranty against defects is NOT Life Time warranty against normal wear. If something breaks due to what they deem "normal" wear, it is not considered under the warranty. Whether to replace a "normal wear breakage" for free or not is up to the local HD manager, and there are some fine managers out there. But there are also some that stick to the warranty as it is written.

    Some people, including me, consider this wording to be deceptive. I know what to listen for, so I know the truth behind it. The makers know the truth too and also know that most new buyers will NOT know the difference. Intentionally taking advanteage of other people's ignorance has been around a long time and some people think that is perfectly OK. I do not! I have a hard time trusting people and companies who do that intentionally and throw that into the selling point knowing that difference.
    They are trying to hit a mark with the Craftsman crowd. The difference is Craftsman has a lifetime warranty AND a satisfaction guarantee, and a wore out or broken tool always falls under the later. It is a common scam for stores to push warrantees, I purchased a ceiling fan from one of the clubs, at the bosses order. It said Lifetime warrantee on the box and they still tried to sell a lifetime warrantee with it. I asked how many more lifetimes does their extended one cover.
    The Craftsman lifetime warranty is on hand tools only, not power tools. If it has a motor, its not a hand tool and ergo, no lifetime warranty.

    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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    • Tube Crafter
      Forum Newbie
      • Dec 2003
      • 60
      • Austin, TX.

      #17
      quote:The warranty is lifetime against defects - a great selling point until the motor burns out two years down the road and they tell you that is normal wear and tear.
      If that specific time limit isn't stated in the warranty, the manufacturer cannot use it as a basis for refusing the claim. They must prove through physical evidence that the motor has reached the end of its normal lifespan, and that lifespan must generally agree with established norms. I suspect this is an area in which good, solid communications (read between the lines here) gets positive results.

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      • tmaceroli
        Established Member
        • Mar 2004
        • 133
        • Forked River, New Jersey, USA.
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #18
        Previous poster (LCHIEN) is correct - Lifetime Warranty is for hand tools. I had a Craftsman saw, whose motor burned out during year 2. It would have been $160+ to replace the motor on a $159.99 table saw. Which is one of the primary reasons I'm here now.

        On the dust collection question, the answer is yes. There is a dust collection port on the back of the saw, which easily connects to a shop vac. The design of the blade housing is such that the rotation of the blade pushes sawdust toward the port. Many other people on the forum use a Shark Guard to replace the blade guard supplied with the saw. It has a dust collection port in the blade guard, which is also helpful, I'm told.

        Tony

        "Nothing would be done at all if a man waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault with it."
        - Cardinal Newman

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        • drumpriest
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2004
          • 3338
          • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
          • Powermatic PM 2000

          #19
          Not to turn this into another "go shark guard" post, but if you go with a BT, seriously consider the shark. It is probably the coolest BT accessory around. And the dust port really does help a lot.

          The Rigid looks to be a good saw, and honestly if it had been out when I bought a saw, I probably would have bought one. You'll have to set it up for Dust collection though, but the herc is sweet. Does anyone know if there are extensions for the Rigid?

          Keith Z. Leonard
          Go Steelers!

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          • Knottscott
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 3815
            • Rochester, NY.
            • 2008 Shop Fox W1677

            #20
            quote:Originally posted by drumpriest

            snip... Does anyone know if there are extensions for the Rigid?
            I'd think you could....I've seen pics of router tables added to the 3650 on the Ridgid site. It comes stock with a left and right extension for a total cast iron surface width of 40-44", but you could almost certainly add additional extensions from Ridgid, or any modify any standard 27" deep wing. You could also build or buy a laminated extension table for it. Adding legs and/or additional bracing is probably a good idea because of the aluminum rails.
            Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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            • arteestkc
              Handtools only
              • Sep 2008
              • 2
              • Prairie Village, KS
              • Ryobi BT3000 & BT3100

              #21
              Ridged Herculift mobile base on BTS3100?

              Does anyone know if the Ridged Herculift mobile base will fit on the BTS3100?

              Thanks,
              Arteestkc

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