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  • jwd12
    Established Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 106
    • Dyer, In..
    • BT3100

    BT3100 died

    My BT3100 just completed a 60" rip in a 2x4, when it died. It will not start. There is power at the receptacle and the blade spins freely. It was not laboring during the cut. Is there a thermal overload on the saw. If there is, I can't find it. Where should I start? Any help would be appreciated?
    I am praying for patience but extremely upset that it takes so long.
  • Black wallnut
    cycling to health
    • Jan 2003
    • 4715
    • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
    • BT3k 1999

    #2
    No thermal overload on saw. Could be a number of things. Bad switch, brushes, smoke released, or even your breaker tripped.
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    • chopnhack
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2006
      • 3779
      • Florida
      • Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      OP states that there is power at the recep. so next in line would be to check with a multimeter for power at and after switch.
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      • dbhost
        Slow and steady
        • Apr 2008
        • 9239
        • League City, Texas
        • Ryobi BT3100

        #4
        Possibly popped the belts? Is the motor running / no blade spin?

        Brushes maybe finally lost contact?
        Let the magic smoke out?
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        • mpc
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 981
          • Cypress, CA, USA.
          • BT3000 orig 13amp model

          #5
          Get a small household lamp (or a power drill or... just about anything you can safely plug in) and stick that into the BT's socket, then flip the BT's ON switch. If the light works, the wall outlet, saw's power cord, saw's power switch, and the saw's outlet are working... meaning the motor itself has issues.

          No lamp light, then the bug is in the saw switch, outlet, or power cord. I'd use an ohmmeter to trace it:
          1: unplug the cord from the wall, unplug the saw motor's cord from the saw's outlet.
          2: clip one ohmmeter lead to either prong of the main power cord.
          3: flip the saw's power switch ON
          4: stick the other ohmmeter lead into the saw's outlet... look for continuity. Just pick one of the outlet "slots" No continuity? Try the other "slot." Still no continuity? Then you'll have to open up the saw's power switch box assembly to probe the wires from the main power cord... though it's likely the power switch itself is the bug. If you DID get continuity, move the first ohmmeter lead to the other prong on the main power cord, then probe the other "slot" in the saw's outlet. Should have continuity there too.

          If you have a beefy extension cord, you can directly test the motor:
          1: unplug the saw's main power cord and set it aside; unplug the stubby motor power cord from the saw's outlet.
          2: Instead, plug the motor's stubby cord directly into your extension cord. Don't have the other end of the extension cord plugged into the wall socket yet.
          3: make sure the blade (if installed) is tight, nothing binding, etc. I.e., the same safety checks you'd make before turning the saw ON to make any cut.
          4: Once the blade is confirmed safe/ready, plug the extension cord into the wall socket. The motor should run if it's okay. Do NOT use the saw this way though - it's dangerous NOT having an OFF switch near your hands while using the saw.

          Likely a busted power switch and/or the wire "clips" that connect the power cord to the switch rattled loose. They can be re-crimped with pliers and re-installed... once you open up the saw body and open up the main power switch.

          Motor: depending on which motor is in your saw, you might see a small plastic cover held in by two screws on the end opposite the blade. Undo those two screws and pop the cover off... you'll see the "brush" assemblies. Eyeball them, comparing one to the other - they should look the same. You'll also see a wire going to each one... see if the wires look healthy.

          mpc

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          • capncarl
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 3571
            • Leesburg Georgia USA
            • SawStop CTS

            #6
            Sounds like you have been bit by the cheap rocker switch like most every one on this site. This is the first thing to check. There are a number of replacements and work arounds on this switch at this site. Don't tear anything else up troubleshooting before you eleminate this potential problem.

            capncarl

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            • jwd12
              Established Member
              • Jun 2005
              • 106
              • Dyer, In..
              • BT3100

              #7
              Originally posted by chopnhack
              OP states that there is power at the recep. so next in line would be to check with a multimeter for power at and after switch.
              I don't have a multimeter BUT always willing to buy a new tool. Is there an alternative way to check? I replaced the switch about two years ago when the 3100 would not shut off. There was no indication of any trouble, I just shut the saw off and then it would not power up. I have "assigned" duties for a while this am. Will get back upon completion
              I am praying for patience but extremely upset that it takes so long.

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              • chopnhack
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 3779
                • Florida
                • Ryobi BT3100

                #8
                Originally posted by jwd12
                I don't have a multimeter BUT always willing to buy a new tool. Is there an alternative way to check? I replaced the switch about two years ago when the 3100 would not shut off. There was no indication of any trouble, I just shut the saw off and then it would not power up. I have "assigned" duties for a while this am. Will get back upon completion
                LOL, nice try on scoring new tools, reread MPC's post - he has it nailed to a T!
                I think in straight lines, but dream in curves

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                • jwd12
                  Established Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 106
                  • Dyer, In..
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  It is a beautiful day here guys, the sun is shining, the temp is in the mid 70's, the assigner of duties has been placated (admittedly a temporary condition) and the dead saw can be revived. It was the switch. Thanks for all the help. I think you'll saved me enough money by not needing to buy a multimeter coupled with the the 20% discount on Rigid tools at HD to reward myself with a thickness planner. THANKS AGAIN.
                  I am praying for patience but extremely upset that it takes so long.

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                  • BobSch
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 4385
                    • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    Multimeters don't have to be expensive. HF often has them on sale for a couple of bucks.
                    Bob

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