cutting down the stock riving knife.

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  • Sawatzky
    Established Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 359
    • CA
    • Ridgid TS3650

    #1

    cutting down the stock riving knife.

    I want to cut down the stock riving knife on by BT3100 so I can leave it on for non-through cuts. I know a lot of you have done that but how do you cut the metal? Do I just use a hacksaw or is there an easier way to get a clean straight cut?
  • Tom Miller
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 2507
    • Twin Cities, MN
    • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

    #2
    I used a metal cutting blade on a jig saw.

    And ear protection.

    Then, I used a file. Without ear protection.

    Regards,
    Tom

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    • LCHIEN
      Super Moderator
      • Dec 2002
      • 21983
      • Katy, TX, USA.
      • BT3000 vintage 1999

      #3
      Agree with Tom, probably the best way for most people.
      Loring in Katy, TX USA
      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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      • pecker
        Established Member
        • Jun 2003
        • 388
        • .

        #4
        I used a jigsaw/metal cutting blade also. Additionally I cut 1/4" off the back end (vertically) to prevent it from possibly rubbing the table as it goes up and down.

        And future ZCTP's will not need as much material removed back there, so they should be a little sturdier.

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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          I used a hacksaw and a scrap block to keep a straight cut.
          David

          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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          • niki
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 566
            • Poland
            • EB PK255

            #6
            Have a look at this site to see how he did it
            http://www.garymkatz.com/Tool%20Reviews/RivingKnife.htm

            niki

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            • scorrpio
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 1566
              • Wayne, NJ, USA.

              #7
              I decided not to mangle the stock part. I took a sheet of 16ga aluminum (was about same thickness as stock part), used the stock knife as template, and then cut it a bit oversize with a jigsaw. Then, finished it on a sander. I used highest-grade aluminum I could find for this, and it is very rigid. The knife hugs the blade real close (about 1/16" from teeth) and its top edge is about 1/16-3/32" lower than tooth tips. Been using it almost exclusively in stead of the stock guard, works great.

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              • crokett
                The Full Monte
                • Jan 2003
                • 10627
                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                Originally posted by niki
                Have a look at this site to see how he did it
                http://www.garymkatz.com/Tool%20Reviews/RivingKnife.htm

                niki
                Couldn't tell from the pics if he was missing fingers, but if he does this often enough he will be sooner rather than later. His fingers are way too close to the blade.

                http://www.garymkatz.com/Tool%20Revi...-Riv.Knife.jpg
                David

                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                • niki
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 566
                  • Poland
                  • EB PK255

                  #9
                  Scorrpio
                  In general, Riving knife should be thicker than the blade body and narrower that the blade kerf (something between those two thicknesses).

                  My Instruction manual calls to position the riving knife "approximately 5mm from the blade" (or in English, approx. 3/16").

                  David
                  You are correct, I never did such a thing and I don't intend to .
                  Looks like some guys must have the thrill of "lets see if it can cut my fingers".

                  niki

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                  • Stytooner
                    Roll Tide RIP Lee
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 4301
                    • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    Niki, that might be optimal, but the stock riving knife on the BT's are thinner than the blade plate.
                    I also not sure that you can even move the stock riving knife back that far on a BT without getting some interference from the back of the throat. 1/16" to just over 1/8" is about all the rage you have, unless you make your own.

                    Riving knives are very easy to make and you should consider building one from scratch rather than canibalizing the OEM guard.
                    Decent steel and aluminum can be found at HD and Lowe's. A little costly, but not for a piece that will do this job.

                    For thin kerf blades, .090" works very well and conforms to Niki's formula. .1" or thicker will only work with standard kerf blades. .12" is really too thick for either. It will pinch very quick even with good lumber.
                    Lee

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                    • JimD
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 4187
                      • Lexington, SC.

                      #11
                      I agree with Lee although I also cut down the stock splitter. I also came up with a way to reattach the stock guard to the cut down splitter. Does not work nearly as well as a shark guard I suspect, however. The cut down splitter came in handy when I bought some 0.090 6066 T6 aluminum sheet - a 12 x 12 inch piece from McMaster Carr. It is enough to make 4 splitters although I have only made one so far. You have to carefully position it but it works nicely with both a thin kerf and a standard kerf blade. I cut it with my Bosch jig saw using a metal cutting blade.

                      Jim

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                      • vaking
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 1428
                        • Montclair, NJ, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3100-1

                        #12
                        I don't think it is worth the effort. If you want a splitter only without a guard - buy a shark splitter from Lee. For $20 you save the hassle of cutting, you leave original intact and shark splitter is the foundation for the shark guard in the future. I bought a splitter first, then got the rest of the shark from another forum member here. Somebody was selling the guard without a splitter - exactly what I needed.
                        Alex V

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                        • paulstenlund
                          Established Member
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 230
                          • Puget Island, Wa.

                          #13
                          Jim
                          How did you re-attach the stock guard - that would be my route since I don't have the budget for the Shark - do you have pics
                          Thanks
                          Paul

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                          • JimD
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4187
                            • Lexington, SC.

                            #14
                            Paul,

                            Sorry but I do not have pictures or the ability to take any at the moment. The attachment method is pretty simple. I extended the steel pivot arrangement of the stock guard using short pieces of flat stock and put a U shaped piece in the middle which pivots off the bars that are on the stock guard extensions. That will be hard to picture, probably. What I am doing is allow the stock guard to be held by this U-shaped piece. The U-shape is about the length of the top of the cut-down guard. It slips over the top of the guard and then there is a small pin at each end made from a piece of a nail with a small hole in one end for a lock wire to go through. This arrangement works but it doesn't look like much and it takes a little while to pull the wire and pins to pull the guard off and then a little longer to put it back. I hardly ever use the guard. Not recommending this approach, just saying what I do.

                            Jim

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                            • Tom Miller
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 2507
                              • Twin Cities, MN
                              • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

                              #15
                              Originally posted by paulstenlund
                              How did you re-attach the stock guard - that would be my route since I don't have the budget for the Shark...
                              Check out this thread (scroll down to message #8) for a picture of a guard that I made for my cut-down riving knife. It's based on something I saw in a Tage Frid WW book. You may get some ideas of how to reattach your stock guard based on this.

                              Regards,
                              Tom

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