10-inch Jet jointer/planer for $419

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  • dtam
    Established Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 137
    • santa clara, CA
    • delta 36-675

    #1

    10-inch Jet jointer/planer for $419

    http://www.amazon.com/Jet-JJP-10BTOS...5618949&sr=8-6

    Not sure if this is a bargain, but most 10-in jointers I have seen are over $1000.
  • thrytis
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 552
    • Concord, NC, USA.
    • Delta Unisaw

    #2
    Woodcraft also carries it at $420, and you can probably get 10% off on February 28th with the 10% off all power tools and the Jet free shipping promotion.

    At 74 lbs and 40" length, it really isn't on the same level as $1000+ 10" jointers. Still, this does seem like a good price if it fits your needs.
    Eric

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    • Carlos
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 1893
      • Phoenix, AZ, USA.

      #3
      I wouldn't do it. I often wish my Jet JJ-6CSX had longer tables, but rarely wish for a wider cut.

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      • letseatpaste
        Forum Newbie
        • Mar 2005
        • 5
        • .

        #4
        Amazon had certain Jet tools at 20% off last weekend and that was one of them. That discount never showed up on the product page, I happened to be ordering it and when I went to check out it kept applying an $84 discount and I couldn't figure out why (not that I was going to complain). I added a couple pairs of Jet cabinet clamps to get the order up to $500 so I could get a free pair of 50" Jet cabinet clamps by rebate directly from Jet. Free shipping on all of it, not too shabby.

        I'm very limited on space and power (my shop is an upstairs spare bedroom) so I hope this works out well. I do mostly guitar making so far but plan to do some furniture/cabinet work as well. I'm hoping I can set up some infeed/outfeed support for decent results on longer pieces.

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        • poolhound
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 3196
          • Phoenix, AZ
          • BT3100

          #5
          well it sort of is and sort of isnt a 10" jointer. You are right that most 10" machines will be much more money. If you were to compare the tools in person (and try to lift them) you would easily see the differnce this is only 73 pounds and both my jointer and planer weigh more than this each..

          IIRC this is part of Jets low end Bench or B3ench range. For a combo jointer and planer that price is great but....

          While you may get 10" worth of jointing you still only get 10" worth of thickness planing. Most benchtop planers are in the 12-13" range.

          The table looks quite short (36") compared to even most standard 6" jointers. You may find this more of a pain and not outweigh by getting an extra 2" of width.

          From what I can tell the fence does NOT move meaning you wont get even wear from the blades and if you get a nick in the first 2" you cant simple move the fence and still get 8" of clean jointing.

          It only has 2 knives


          On the plus side if you currently have neither, dont have enough cash to buy both individually nor space in your shop for both tools or intend to use it frequently this may be a good compromise.

          If in fact you dont have either then IMHO I would keep your eyes peeled on CL for a good used 12"-13" planer which you should be able to get for $150-$200. Using a sled you can use a planer for face jointing and then you can get a jointer later if you feel the need.



          It only has 2 blades
          Last edited by poolhound; 02-26-2009, 09:46 AM.
          Jon

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          • vaking
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 1428
            • Montclair, NJ, USA.
            • Ryobi BT3100-1

            #6
            Why do they call these things "planer"? I undertsand how it works as jointer but how does it plane? What am I missing?
            Alex V

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            • Carlos
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2004
              • 1893
              • Phoenix, AZ, USA.

              #7
              Run the board face down on the unit, and it planes. I use my jointer that way often, either to straighten a board that's not flat or to thickness plane really difficult wood (now that I have a helical cutterhead).

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              • SARGE..g-47

                #8
                Have a good look at this unit, especially down under the jointer table.. It is stated as Jointer-Planer.. Those are two different animals as a jointer is for edge jointing and surface planing the the reason Euro's call it a surface planer. The stockj rides the top and the cutter-head is underneath.

                But a planer in Europe is called a thicknesser and the cutter heads are over the stock. Now.. there are combo machines which use the same cutter-head. I believe this is one of those combo's. The jointer as we call it rides the upper table surface and the cutter is under it. The planer as we call it is the area down below the jointer. I believe the cutter head assembly can be lowered to thickness using the same cutter-head on this machine as the cutter-head is over the lower table which is how Combo Jointer-Planer works.

                Take a good look at the picture. The turn handle to the left is to lower the cutter-head to the table below which you see if you look close. Bingo.. a combo jointer-planer as we call it or a combo surfacer-thicknesser in Euro terms.

                I could be wrong in this case as I have not seen it but.. Jet is aware of that and if only intended it for edge jointing and surface planing.. they would have just called it a Jointer period.

                My real question would be.. is this a direct drive motor or pulley driven and what HP. $400 would be OK for a small shop if it is pulley driven and depending on the HP. Otherwise I would look for a used machine in each of the two categories..

                Ya'll have a good un...
                Last edited by Guest; 02-26-2009, 11:55 AM.

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                • pelligrini
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4217
                  • Fort Worth, TX
                  • Craftsman 21829

                  #9
                  This particular unit does work like a planer. There is another table below the top jointer table. I assume that the second table moves up and down to get the desired cutting range using the same set of knives. The planer part is fed from below the top outfeed table. http://content.wmhtoolgroup.com/sell.../707410_ss.pdf

                  There are some other jointer/planers that have a lot of other mechanical movements to do when switching from jointing to planing.
                  Erik

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                  • Garasaki
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 550

                    #10
                    74 lbs?!?!

                    LOL

                    My 4" jointer weighs more then that!!! AND it has longer tables.

                    No thanks in my book...
                    -John

                    "Look, I can't surrender without orders. I mean they emphasized that to me particularly. I don't know exactly why. The guy said "Blake, never surrender without checking"
                    -Henry Blake

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                    • dtam
                      Established Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 137
                      • santa clara, CA
                      • delta 36-675

                      #11
                      I don't need one as I already have a stationary Craftsman 6" jointer, and a Delta Benchtop 12.5" planer. Sometimes I do wish I had a wider jointer though.

                      Has anyone seen the old episodes of New Yankee Workshop that PBS has been broadcasting lately. Norm runs both sides of a rough lumber board thru a planer to flatten and thickness plane it. In the last episode, he doesn't even use a planer, but instead uses a 24-in drum sander to flatten the boards. In fact, I have never seen Norm face joint a board on a jointer. I always thought you need both jointer/planer to flatten and thickness plane rough lumber.

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                      • ragswl4
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 1559
                        • Winchester, Ca
                        • C-Man 22114

                        #12
                        Originally posted by dtam
                        Norm runs both sides of a rough lumber board thru a planer to flatten and thickness plane it. In the last episode, he doesn't even use a planer, but instead uses a 24-in drum sander to flatten the boards. In fact, I have never seen Norm face joint a board on a jointer. I always thought you need both jointer/planer to flatten and thickness plane rough lumber.
                        Unless Norm is using some sort of jig it is not possible to flatten rough lumber on either a planer or a sander. All that will happen is that both faces will be parallel to one another but neither face will be flat.

                        As for the OP, I would pass on the combo machine and look for used. At 79 lbs I would wonder how robust the machine is and ponder how long it may last. Better off to go with more traditional machines IMHO.
                        RAGS
                        Raggy and Me in San Felipe
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                        • kirkroy
                          Established Member
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 343
                          • Brunswick, MD

                          #13
                          One of these days I'm going to make a planer sled to flatten boards with. I'll probably do that before my next furniture project...

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                          • SARGE..g-47

                            #14
                            Ditto Rags.. as I highly suspect at that price a direct drive motor services the cutter-head and the HP is low.. 10" is great except the rpm in really not sufficient to handle 10".. or 8 for that matter. In my shop this combo would show in the obituraries in under a month.

                            Save Carlos... get something more substantial..... you will appreciate that in the long run..

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                            • just started
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 642
                              • suburban Philly

                              #15
                              I haven't found a HP rating, but the motor draws 13 amps at 115v so it's likely between 1 and 1.5 HP. The cutter head is belt driven and the feed rollers are chain driven. There is a three page pamphlet in .pdf here

                              http://content.wmhtoolgroup.com/whit...IFlCT5WqOHd7og

                              which has more info and some internal pix.

                              I think I'm going to take a careful look at it on Sat at Woodcraft and get one unless it looks like a real p.o.s., especially with the extra 10% off.

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