Sigh ... whatever happened to the realization not EVERYONE should go to college?

[woodturner]

that's a new one to me, the geeks are now the new bullies?

In some cases, yes. Think about how people make fun of "old people" that are not as computer efficient. If we visit boards like SD that cater to the younger crowd, derisive comments like "you must be like 30 years old" are common, as well as more directly insulting and condescending comments.

I may have worded that a little strongly, though, maybe "bullying" is not the best way to express it. I meant people making fun of others because the others have lesser technical skills.

[jaybee]

Gaggle of geese

Murder of crows

An array of geeks

A ______ of idiots


















































Corporation



Is that considered bullying?

[BadeMillsap]

Gaggle of geese

Murder of crows

An array of geeks

A ______ of idiots ...

If I weren't afraid of someone thinking I was being "political" in my response I would suggest "a congress of idiots" ... but I don't want to be misinterpreted so I'll just stand idly by ....

delete if you must but it just popped into my head ... had nothing to do with the thread ...

[cabinetman]

Gaggle of geese

Murder of crows

An array of geeks

A ______ of idiots


















































Corporation



Is that considered bullying?

IDK...is it? Trying to figure it out.

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[chopnhack]

I guess I am getting old too... first thought was a "bunch" of idiots... Maybe tonight is not a good night to root my phone

[LCHIEN]

In some cases, yes. Think about how people make fun of "old people" that are not as computer efficient. If we visit boards like SD that cater to the younger crowd, derisive comments like "you must be like 30 years old" are common, as well as more directly insulting and condescending comments.

I may have worded that a little strongly, though, maybe "bullying" is not the best way to express it. I meant people making fun of others because the others have lesser technical skills.

I must be out of it. What's an SD board? A forum? Google search suggests South Dakota, SecureDigital memory cards and Sandridge Corporation , among other unlikely things, I doubt that's it.

[cabinetman]

What's an SD board?

Maybe here...

SD South Dakota (US postal abbreviation)
SD Standard Definition (standard for digital video disk recorders)
SD Super Duty (automobiles)
SD Storage Device
SD Software Development
SD Sudan (ISO country code, top level domain)
SD Software Developer
SD Something Different
SD Social Development
SD Survey Data (drafting and design)
SD Sustainable Development
SD Standard Deviation
SD Source/Drain
SD Speed Dial
SD Stable Disease
SD Sudden Death
SD Super Deformed (anime)
SD Sweet Dreams
SD State Director
SD Steward (USN Rating)
SD System Description
SD Step-Daughter
SD Sprague-Dawley (laboratory rat strain)
SD Sugar Daddy
SD Special Duty
SD Soap Dispenser
SD Standard Duty (6 axle diesel locomotive)
SD Software Documentation
SD Steely Dan
SD System Device
SD Social Distortion (band)
SD Storm Drain
SD Star Destroyer (Star Wars)
SD Supply Depot (Starcraft)
SD Speed Demon
SD System Display
SD Stay Down
SD Seiken Densetsu (game)
SD Spasmodic Dysphonia
SD Sekolah Dasar (Indonesian elementry school)
SD Social Desirability
SD Spectral Data
SD Shaolin-Do (martial arts)
SD Speed Disk (Norton Utilities)
SD Sudanese Dinar
SD Solar Diffuser
SD Sudan Airways (IATA airline code)
SD Study Director
SD Survey Department
SD Superior Defender (anime)
SD Structured Design
SD Supporting Document
SD Space Division
SD social drinker
SD Spirit Detective (anime)
SD Stage Direction (theater)
SD Solar Dynamics
SD System Demonstration
SD Spatial Disorientation
SD Super Dense
SD Synthetic Division
SD Spiral Development (effort)
SD Specially Denatured (alcohol for cosmetics)
SD Spectral Decomposition
SD Strength-Duration
SD Stick Death (cartoon)
SD Socratic Dialogue
SD Spin Dynamics
SD Soul Decision (band)
SD Social Day
SD Solicitation Document
SD Systems Diagram
SD Supply Duct
SD Sans Date (French: No Date)
SD Sphere Decoding
SD Suspense Date
SD Stream Detection
SD Stream Density
SD Shoulder-Disarticulation (amputation)
SD Solvent Desorption
SD Superdreadnought (Honor Harrington science fiction novels)
SD Super Domain
SD Surface Duct
SD Super Dreadnought (naval and sci-fi space navy warship class)
SD Sweep Duration
SD Static Displacement
SD Southern Durchmusterung (star catalogue)
SD Speciale Diensten (Dutch)
SD Span Destination (Cisco)
SD Submittal Description
SD Structures and Deduction (ICALP Workshop)
SD Section Disparu (French: Section That Does Not Exist, from TV show Alias)
SD Safe, Detected Failure
SD Start Descent
SD Staff Digest
SD Shivan Destroyer (FreeSpace 2 game)
SD Sparklet Devices (.50 caliber ammunition headstamp)
SD Scorned Death (Shadowbane guild)
SD Spartan Dominion (forum)
SD South Departure (aviation)
SD Super Compact Disk (Toshiba/Time Warner)
SD Set Decipherable
SD Senatus Decreto (Latin: By Decree of Senate, epigraphy)
SD Archive and Dissemination Office (NIMA)
SD Stationary Disturbance
SD Savane Développement (French)
SD Sith Domination (gaming clan)
SD Spider Duel (gaming, Subspace/Continuum)
SD Synchronization Directorate
SD Sound Dampened/Diffused (weapons)
SD Shabeellada Dhexe (postal region, Somalia)
SD Saigon Dentist (website and forum)
SD Shadowdale (MUD)
SD Seven Days (band)
SD Scooby-Doo
SD Security Deposit
SD Significantly Different
SD Service Delivery
SD Same Difference
SD Science Data
SD Shine-Dalgarno (genetics sequence)
SD Smackdown (WWE TV show)
SD Slam Dunk
SD Salvia Divinorum (entheogenic spice)
SD Discriminative Stimulus
SD Siamese Dream (Smashing Pumpkins album)
SD Security Descriptor (Windows 2000)
SD Safe Driver
SD Shipping Date
SD Scoping Document
SD Shadow Development
SD Single Density
SD Sample Duplicate
SD Slightly ****ed (web comic)
SD Schedule Deviation
SD Snow Day
SD Software Division
SD Secure Digital
SD Schematic Description (Bell System)
SD Schweizer Demokraten (Swiss Democrats)
SD Sanjay Dutt (Indian actor)
SD Salutem Dicit (Latin: sends greetings)
SD Sample Data
SD San Diego
SD Scleroderma (connective tissue disease)
SD Search Depth
SD Sega Dreamcast
SD Selection Diversity
SD Self Defense
SD Send Data
SD Senior Deacon
SD Senior Director
SD Service Dress
SD Sheriff's Department
SD Sicherheitsdienst (German Security Department, WWII)
SD Sight Draft
SD Signed Digit
SD Silenced (weapon)
SD Sine Die (Without A Day, fixed)
SD Site Defense
SD Situation Display
SD Skin Dose
SD Smoke Detector
SD Smoke Damper (HVAC systems)
SD Snoop Dogg
SD Sidereal Day (orbital mechanics)
SD Shipping Department
SD Signal Degrade
SD Saturation Degree
SD Service Director
SD Single Dose
SD Sacrum Diis (Latin: Consacrated to the Gods, epigraphy)
SD Shutdown
SD Sales and Distribution (SAP)
SD Smith-Dorrien (General Sir Horace Smith-Dorrien)
SD Schizotypal Disorder
SD Service Duct
SD Steroid-Dependent (medical status)
SD Snare Drum
SD Sandy Denny (singer)
SD Smart Devices
SD Senate Document
SD Shinedown (band)
SD Senior Discount
SD Siemens Dematic
SD Sexual Dysfunction
SD Self-Destruct
SD Sectional Density
SD Service Description
SD Slobodna Dalmacija (Croatian newspaper)

.

[LCHIEN]

Maybe here...

SD South Dakota (US postal abbreviation)
SD Standard Definition (standard for digital video disk recorders)
SD Super Duty (automobiles)
SD Storage Device
SD Software Development
SD Sudan (ISO country code, top level domain)
... (cut down big list)
SD Sectional Density
SD Service Description
SD Slobodna Dalmacija (Croatian newspaper)

.

in other words, you don't know either.

[cabinetman]

in other words, you don't know either.

I did some internet checking. I thought you might enjoy a list to pick from. But, I don't know. If I did...I would tell you.

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[cabinetman]

What's an SD board?

Hey...I was thinking about it. How about "software development"?

.

[Cochese]

My guess would be Slickdeals.

But if woodturner thinks that's bad, reddit might kill him.

[jaybee]

Geez, youse guys must be over 30 I'm over 60 and it is obviously the Straight Dope board.

[cwsmith]

This issue has always been a challenge and a "pet peeve" of mine. I have always felt that there ought to be a law against discrimination with regards to education as it applies to employment and pay grade.

First off, I don't have a degree and therein lays the challenge to my, now retired, career as a technical communicator (illustrator,writer, photographer, data specialist).

I graduated high school in 1962 and with only one exception had jobs that required a high measure of technical skills. I've been a technical illustrator since 1966 and in my particular area I have been one of the best, if not the best. I've done work for almost every company across the southern tier, from IBM to Ingersoll-Rand, including Kodak, Singer-Link, GE, GAF, U.S. Textile, Hilliard, Hardinge, Corning, and many, many others.

As a freelancer, there is never a question of ability and "education" is never brought up. But for employment, most companies won't take your resume' without at least a BA or BS and an interview is impossible.

I worked for a heavy industry for thirty years and I'm very proud of my work there and I received many recognitions and awards for that work. I never had single review that was questionable and the vast majority of reviews were commendable or outstanding. YET... I was constantly paid less, "because you don't have a degree" and everytime there was a change in management there was considerable question as to how I was holding a job that required a minimum of a Bachelors degree.

In fact, it was that lack of a degree that layed me off in 2000. I was one of seven members on our new corporate Marketing Communications team, where I represented the interests of my Division. I was the only one who didn't have a degree; yet, I was the only one who had any talent or experience to exercise of the disciplines required to producing a brochure or technical publication. In fact, I could perform and had a high level of expertise in every single discipline. All the others had to hire out all the functions to Ad agencies.

So within the year, I lost my job. My division management kept me on staff, in continuation of their needs for three more years. But that was in the title of "Consultant" and I worked without any benefits, including vacation, holidays, insurance, etc.

The sad thing of it is, is that hiring a "degree only" is a lazy way of providing human resources. Little judgement has to be made and therefore little responsibility on the part of those who establish the rule. When you find a bad employee, there's always that, "Well how was I to know; afterall, he had a degree!"

Perhaps it's my fault for not pursueing a degree, but there was nothing that offered a degree in what I do and through my career I've rarely been impressed by those "holding paper". I've seen engineers who couldn't write a sentence and others who couldn't read a blue print. It's often shocking as to how little some people know or that lack abilities that their degree states they should have.

However, I've made sure that our son didn't make the mistakes that I had. He is a graduate of Cornell's Industrial Labor Relations school and has his MBA. I hope my grandson's follow in their father's footsteps.

CWS

[woodturner]

My guess would be Slickdeals.

Yes, that's what I meant. Thought it had been referenced enough here that most would know the board, guess that was a bad assumption.

But if woodturner thinks that's bad, reddit might kill him.

Which subreddit do you have in mind? I only read a couple, and they moderate the ones I read very strictly - they ban people for a single offense.

[woodturner]

As a freelancer, there is never a question of ability and "education" is never brought up. But for employment, most companies won't take your resume' without at least a BA or BS and an interview is impossible.

Yes, unfortunate but true.

Several years ago, I was trying to fill a embedded developer position (hardware and software design and implementation for microprocessor based systems) within the department I managed. We received something like 50 applications, narrowed that down to 10 that looked like they might be able to do the job and conducted phone interviews with those 10. For a host of reasons, none of them were suitable.

I ran into a former coworker at an IEEE meeting and he mentioned he was concerned about layoffs at his company. This guy was a very experienced and competent developer and had worked his way up to a senior engineering position at his company. We talked, he was interested, and he could clearly do the job. I was all set to hire him, but it turns out he had not completed his degree. HR said we couldn't hire him because he did not have the degree. We pushed hard, but ultimately it escalated to the CEO who was unwilling to hire an engineer without a degree.

We subsequently hired a less capable but degreed engineer, who unfortunately did not work out. If we had hired the more competent but non-degreed engineer, we would not have had the problems.

A degree is not a requirement for technical competence, and a degree is not a guarantee of technical competence. I would prefer to evaluate people on their job performance and success, not whether they have a degree. Sadly, the business world doesn't see it that way.