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  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 21886
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #1

    Nostalgia for some of us - IBM 1401

    Computing in the 1960's

    http://spectrum.ieee.org/slideshow/c...-1401-computer

    this roomful of stuff has 1/1,000,000 the power of todays laptop computers and pulls 20 KW to run.

    I saw these mostly thru glass windows... didn't get to touch one very often. Those printers were impressively fast, I know you could bury a room in paper if you had a runaway program doing form-feeds.
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 11-12-2009, 10:19 AM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
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  • RAFlorida
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1179
    • Green Swamp in Central Florida. Gator property!
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    If my memory

    is correct, the IRS in Kansas City used that model for several years. Remember see what appeared to be the same model in their control room. Always liked watching the tapes running and listening to the whirring! In it's day, it was THE machine. Thanks for the find and posting the link.

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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #3
      Neat link.

      I have various Cray parts if you're interested in building your own vintage supercomputer.

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      • avbclark
        Forum Newbie
        • Jul 2006
        • 38
        • Cottonwood Heights, UT
        • BT3100 and BT3000

        #4
        Great Find

        Thanks for posting the link.
        As someone who started programming with punch cards and now could not really program to save myself, I really enjoyed it. I remember waiting with anticipation as the operator took my card deck and I waited to see if the program would run. How cool it was when I first saw interactive basic on a terminal, and even better when I scrounged up a terminal and 300 baud mode for home use. I had an email account on this weird network that the University of Utah and other sites were on in 1976, and then after I left college on CompuServe. No way I can remember the strange email addresses we had back then.
        Those were fun days, but I sure am glad we got to this point. I wonder what’s next?

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        • southernbob
          Forum Newbie
          • Jan 2008
          • 42
          • South Florida

          #5
          I wonder if they have a 1419 (think that is the model number) check sorter. That was real impressive when it was running at full speed and was adusted correctly. When not adjusted correctly it was equally impressive with checks flying all over. It was a big machine. Did some work on that as well as the 1401 after machines were brought back from storage and updated for a vendor that wanted them well after their heyday.
          Bob

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          • knotley
            Established Member
            • Apr 2003
            • 126
            • Canada.

            #6
            www.bitsavers.org

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            • RodKirby
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2002
              • 3136
              • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
              • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

              #7
              Oh, the good old days

              (It was a neat little machine for punching the form control tape )

              BTW - I'm still programming - and still loving it!
              Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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              • dbhost
                Slow and steady
                • Apr 2008
                • 9481
                • League City, Texas
                • Ryobi BT3100

                #8
                Wow, now that is old for IT hardware...

                The first computer system I worked on professionally was an SGI Challenge. That was back in the 90's... And it was old then...
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                • LCHIEN
                  Super Moderator
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 21886
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RodKirby
                  Oh, the good old days

                  (It was a neat little machine for punching the form control tape )

                  BTW - I'm still programming - and still loving it!
                  I was thinking partly of you Rod, when i posted this!
                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • JR
                    The Full Monte
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 5636
                    • Eugene, OR
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    Magnetic core memory. Yikes.

                    Speaking of memory, where did they dig up the geezers who still remembered how to work on that thing?!

                    JR
                    JR

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                    • crokett
                      The Full Monte
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 10627
                      • Mebane, NC, USA.
                      • Ryobi BT3000

                      #11
                      There are a lot of those geezers still around. My dad isn't that old and I sent him that link. He remembers that machine although he didn't do a great deal of work on it.
                      David

                      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                      • MilDoc

                        #12
                        The first one I got to work with was an IBM 360/67 in '72, programming in FORTRAN, on punch cards. HATED those cards since I am not a great typist. Stack of 100 cards, error on card 3, retype, resubmit, error on card 10, etc etc etc. Took me forever to get all 100 right, after about 20 failed runs. Had no way to run the cards through a checker before submission.

                        Had it's own CP/CMS processing system and the one at Penn State had 4 processors and great time-sharing. CP/CMS introduced many virtual machine and virtual memory concepts.

                        And now my desktop runs rings around it. Wish I could live to see the machines of year 3000.

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                        • Rich P
                          Established Member
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 390
                          • Foresthill, CA, USA.
                          • Powermatic 66 (1966 vintage)

                          #13
                          Does anyone here know why it was called "core" memory? Hint, IBM had LOLs string wire through iron rings. Also, who knows where the term "bug" came from and why? Another hint, it was a Navy lady! While we are going down memory lane, what ever happened to COBOL?

                          Actually in the mid 60's Burroughs made a much better check sorter than IBM. I worked my way through college nights in proof and transit so I speak from first hand experience. My favorite was the 1403 N1 printer.

                          The problem with the 1401 is IBM tried to palm it off on India after they came up with the 360s...result was 20 years of hostility...now I imagine a lot of IBM staff comes from India. Go figure!

                          Now, after so many year of dissing the "mainframe" we appear to be headed to the "cloud"? Beam me up, Scotty!
                          Don't ever ask a barber if you need a haircut.

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                          • RodKirby
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 3136
                            • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
                            • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MilDoc
                            The first one I got to work with was an IBM 360/67 in '72, programming in FORTRAN, on punch cards. HATED those cards since I am not a great typist. Stack of 100 cards, error on card 3, retype, resubmit, error on card 10, etc etc etc. Took me forever to get all 100 right, after about 20 failed runs. Had no way to run the cards through a checker before submission...
                            And if you had a "real" friend - he would shuffle the cards before they were processed - always interesting results
                            Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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                            • LCHIEN
                              Super Moderator
                              • Dec 2002
                              • 21886
                              • Katy, TX, USA.
                              • BT3000 vintage 1999

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RodKirby
                              And if you had a "real" friend - he would shuffle the cards before they were processed - always interesting results
                              that's why i took a magic marker and made a big diagonal stripe across my deck... in an instant you could see if a card was misplaced.
                              Loring in Katy, TX USA
                              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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