Can this be used without too much fear?

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  • ironhat
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    • Aug 2004
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    • Chambersburg, PA (South-central).
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    Can this be used without too much fear?

    Fear of harming the drill press using this ? I understand lateral bearing load stesses where they are unintended but what about an occassional basis and making only 1/4" deep cuts?
    Blessings,
    Chiz
  • LCHIEN
    Internet Fact Checker
    • Dec 2002
    • 20914
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    why not use a router and an appropriate straight bit?
    Use the Proper tool for the job. (see my sig line.)
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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    • cgallery
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      • Sep 2004
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      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #3
      I'm with Loring. If you use it in the DP, your chuck and spindle will handle the stress. It is designed to be used in their jig where the bushing will handle the lateral forces.

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      • ironhat
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        #4
        I don't have a bench vise - just a machine shop vise - and the thought of trying to jury-rig a jig and balance the jig on top of it, given my capacity to screw up, kind of put me off. That's the motive behind the question.
        Blessings,
        Chiz

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15218
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          You probably could get away with using that bit for limited use. You may or may not have any sustained damage. That bit is designed to run within a pattern, and using it in a DP where you may be moving the subject piece may not work out too well. Don't tell anyone, but I've used different router bits in a DP on occasion. As a note to this, I've had the chuck just fall off doing drum sanding, but haven't noticed any bearing damage...yet.
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          • Wood_workur
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            • Aug 2005
            • 1914
            • Ohio
            • Ryobi bt3100-1

            #6
            who has a drill press before they have a router?
            Alex

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            • ironhat
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              #7
              Originally posted by Wood_workur
              who has a drill press before they have a router?
              No, no... I have both. It's a vice and a jig that are missing.
              Blessings,
              Chiz

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              • pelligrini
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                • Apr 2007
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                • Fort Worth, TX
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                #8
                A few more details on what the cut is might get you a simpler solution.

                A couple hand screws and maybe some wedges can get a lot of things clamped down to a bench.

                *edit*
                An Example:
                Last edited by pelligrini; 03-31-2009, 05:31 PM.
                Erik

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                • LCHIEN
                  Internet Fact Checker
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 20914
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ironhat
                  I don't have a bench vise - just a machine shop vise - and the thought of trying to jury-rig a jig and balance the jig on top of it, given my capacity to screw up, kind of put me off. That's the motive behind the question.
                  you did not describe an application. I assume you want to engrave some item or something simlar.

                  the usual would be to place the item on a router mat (rubber to keep it from moving) then use the router or plunge router on top of the workpiece.
                  An alternative to the mat would be double stick tape or hot glue gun, peel it off afterwards.
                  All those solutions are inexpensive.

                  using the DP for side forces may damage the bearings, but more likely than that the chuck may fall off and this is very frustrating. It's only held on by snug fitting and putting a side load on it tends to break the vacuum that forms in the junction. Once broken loose it'll keep falling off at the inconvenient times until you clean both sides and carefully reapply it.
                  Routers on the other hand don't have morse taper chucks but solid collets machined onto the motor shaft and bearings at both ends of the motor shaft to take the side loads.
                  Last edited by LCHIEN; 03-31-2009, 05:37 PM.
                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • ironhat
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                    #10
                    I'm thinking of loose tenon joints for raised panel doors or any other one.
                    Blessings,
                    Chiz

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                    • vaking
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      • Montclair, NJ, USA.
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                      #11
                      Drill press can take some side pressure.
                      A circle cutter like these
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                      is supposed to be used only in a drill press and it has only one unbalanced cutter. That means it creates side pressure and probably not a small one.
                      Alex V

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                      • Russianwolf
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
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                        #12
                        I think you'd be better off buying the Jessum setup and using it with a handheld drill as intended. The complete system in $250 at Woodcraft and might be found cheaper elsewhere.
                        Mike
                        Lakota's Dad

                        If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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                        • ironhat
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                          #13
                          I just don't have a vise to hold the workpiece, Mike. I thing that the real solution is to build a new bench, add a bench and use a Jess-em. Hmmm, let me check that link, Alex V! ;-) Hey Mike, no flame intended. Just having fun. I always appreciate the comments!
                          Blessings,
                          Chiz

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                          • Russianwolf
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                            #14
                            the video I saw just used a couple clamps. A couple to hold the Jessum to the bench and one to hold the stock on the Jessum. Now admittedly you will definitely want a clamp that will not budge to hold the stock, but shouldn't be too hard to find if you don't already have one.
                            Mike
                            Lakota's Dad

                            If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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                            • ironhat
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                              #15
                              I've got a crappy bench with no overhang for clamping. I'm in the process of attaching a ledge to the thing so I can do something. Maybe it will be doable when I can afford the Jessum. I was thinking more of the problem of clamping a long piece but as I think of it, how often does that happen? Thanks! I guess a couple of slaps upside the head to get my brain straight.
                              Blessings,
                              Chiz

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