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  • catta12
    Established Member
    • Jan 2008
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    • Reno, NV
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    I remembered a quote the other day that still makes me cringe.

    “The only reason screws have threads on them is for removal. Just drive them in like nails.”

    What do you think? Good logic?

    Feel free to post any other "great idea" quotes of the same nature here.
    If you can read this you assembled wrong.


    Alan
  • Ed62
    The Full Monte
    • Oct 2006
    • 6021
    • NW Indiana
    • BT3K

    #2
    Originally posted by catta12
    “The only reason screws have threads on them is for removal. Just drive them in like nails.”

    What do you think? Good logic?
    Nope, but years ago I had a neighbor who really believed in that.

    Ed
    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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    • gsmittle
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      • Aug 2004
      • 2788
      • St. Louis, MO, USA.
      • BT 3100

      #3
      Originally posted by catta12
      I remembered a quote the other day that still makes me cringe.

      “The only reason screws have threads on them is for removal. Just drive them in like nails.”

      What do you think? Good logic?

      Feel free to post any other "great idea" quotes of the same nature here.
      Aiee! Probably said by the same guys who insist on cutting 2x4s balanced on their thigh.

      g.
      Smit

      "Be excellent to each other."
      Bill & Ted

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      • LCHIEN
        Internet Fact Checker
        • Dec 2002
        • 21055
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        quotes have little meaning unless you tell me who originally made the quote then I'll evaluate how much stock i put in the quote.
        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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        • crokett
          The Full Monte
          • Jan 2003
          • 10627
          • Mebane, NC, USA.
          • Ryobi BT3000

          #5
          Loring, I wouldn't put much stock in a quote advocating hammering screws like nails, no matter who said it.
          David

          The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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          • Bruce Cohen
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            • May 2003
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            • Nanuet, NY, USA.
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            #6
            I don't know,

            It sounds like a good idea.

            Bruce
            "Western civilization didn't make all men equal,
            Samuel Colt did"

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            • cabinetman
              Gone but not Forgotten RIP
              • Jun 2006
              • 15216
              • So. Florida
              • Delta

              #7
              Originally posted by Bruce Cohen
              I don't know,

              It sounds like a good idea.

              Bruce

              Definitely quicker too. You could use one of them cordless hammers.
              .

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              • catta12
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                • Jan 2008
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                #8
                Originally posted by LCHIEN
                quotes have little meaning unless you tell me who originally made the quote then I'll evaluate how much stock i put in the quote.
                The who doesn't really matter in this case, an average joe with a nonchalant perspective on construction. The point is that not everyone has attention to detail or pride in the work that they do.
                If you can read this you assembled wrong.


                Alan

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                • Joe DeFazio
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 78
                  • Pittsburgh, PA
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Okay, I'm a piano technician (tuner/rebuilder), so that makes me a little odd in any number of ways.

                  That being said, we always pound tuning pins (which are really just extremely fine-threaded screws) into pre-drilled holes in the laminated rock maple pinblock (ca. 1 1/4" thick) in pianos. We do this because we need extremely even torque from a controlled interference fit, and the friction from turning them in heats the wood and loosens the fit of the pin unacceptably. The relatively few and sudden blows from a small sledge or palm nailer are actually much kinder to the maple.

                  I guess I'm just pointing out that many bizarre-sounding statements probably make at lease a little sense in some small and possibly forgotten corner of the universe.

                  Joe

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                  • LCHIEN
                    Internet Fact Checker
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 21055
                    • Katy, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 vintage 1999

                    #10
                    Originally posted by crokett
                    Loring, I wouldn't put much stock in a quote advocating hammering screws like nails, no matter who said it.
                    well, just in general, when somebody tells me "they say blah blah bah" I'll want to know who "they" is. Especially if I find the advice to be somewhat, er, questionable.
                    Loring in Katy, TX USA
                    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                    • TB Roye
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2969
                      • Sacramento, CA, USA.
                      • BT3100

                      #11
                      The question is how many of us have done some time in the past. I have done it a few time before I knew about drill a piliot hole. I worked on short wood screws but it made it hard to remove them. I can remember hitting a screw to start it and then using a screw driver to finish the job, but screws were better then and didn't cam out like they do today. Some of them were the slot head screws not phillips head. Dumb? yea but didn't know any better and need to get it done now.

                      Tom

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                      • cabinetman
                        Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 15216
                        • So. Florida
                        • Delta

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LCHIEN
                        well, just in general, when somebody tells me "they say blah blah bah" I'll want to know who "they" is. Especially if I find the advice to be somewhat, er, questionable.

                        I'm pretty sure that this is the guy that said that.
                        .

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                        • LCHIEN
                          Internet Fact Checker
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 21055
                          • Katy, TX, USA.
                          • BT3000 vintage 1999

                          #13
                          Actually, I guess you should just read my sig line... The guy who was quoted apparently only had a hammer to go with his screws.
                          Loring in Katy, TX USA
                          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                          BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                          • Stytooner
                            Roll Tide RIP Lee
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 4301
                            • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
                            • BT3100

                            #14
                            If there is any logic behind the quote, then why don't spiral or screw nails have crosstip or square drive heads?

                            The screws I use most often are the wide fluted screws. These generally slice their way in and make opposing threads in the wood, plastic and some other man made materials.

                            I do find that a combination of hammering and twisting really inserts these screws efficiently. They sell a lot of impact drivers nowadays since this was discovered or invented.
                            Lee

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                            • Crash2510
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 830
                              • North Central Ohio

                              #15
                              I know a guy who used this same logic with lag bolts after pre drilling the holes.
                              He always said the threads were for taking them out.

                              he was a general contractor and was in the construction industry for 30 years.

                              I did try to take one out once and it was just as tight as one ratcheted in.

                              don't know if i would try this with screws, but have done it with lags in temporary emergency situations.
                              Phil In Ohio
                              The basement woodworker

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