Forum User Reputation System

[SARGE..g-47]

Thanks for the detailed explanation Mark. I may just use it to add reputation points now and then as it appears that someone or a few someones have added a few to lift me out of the slimy gutter where I tend to hibernate.

But.. if I find something negative.. I believe I will stick to my current policy of just saying so publicly and working it out one on one. Hard to solve a problem if both dis-agreeing parties are not aware there is a problem to begin with.

With that said, I have to go see my accountant shortly to insure I get a reputation point for paying my taxes for 2007. And then back to the shop to try to get some points from the foxy lady upstairs. Unfortunately.. she has me currently rated me at around -2000 with "bad boy" points.

The good news is that she says "that's all good" to her and the reason she married me to begin with, whatever that means!

Regards and ya'll All have a good day...

[Stytooner]

My Stepmother used to say "If you don't have or can't find anything nice to say to someone, then don't say anything at all."

Me and her never did talk much to each other.

I dislike the system as it is because there is no rebuttal. Fine and dandy when you only get good points. The world is full of one sided debates and opinions. I think I like the system on ebay better. At least you know who left it and could comment on it to at least share your side of things.

Then again if bad marks are wiped out by good marks, perhaps it might be a better barometer, but I still ain't taking the bait.

CNC Zone uses the same software and as large as that place is, no one uses this feature there either.

[Hellrazor]

Reputation systems don't mean much at all. I don't really care if mine is + or -12million. The forums that heavily use the reputation systems seem like a high school. Right down to the cliques...

Some forums do show who left the feedback, so it isn't anon everywhere.

[cabinetman]

What value if any is an anonymous rep click.

Here's another thought to ponder. An anonymous click for a bad rep could be from the same type that generates and disperses computer viruses. In that instance, the damage is in place and the results are not appreciated by the perpetrator. Whereas, the targets life may drastically change; loss of weight, physical and mental illness, gross hatred for anything living...including those things that crawl, and generally withdrawing from society.

An anonymous click for a good rep, OTOH, is like a visit from the forum fairy godmother. Life then becomes worth living. Without being able to bestow thanks on the good will; love and happiness surges through the veins and arteries, a prolific ability to post non stop on forums, change driving habits to obey every law, join Greenpeace, Save The Whales, and The Peace Corps, and dedicate your life to feeding and educating the poor.

Hey, I just checked. Since this thread started, I've received 382 bad reps. Hahahahahahaha.
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[Bruce Cohen]

Hey people,

We've spent enough time on this meaningless nonsense to probably cure a major disease.

ENOUGH already, we're (me included) just beating a dead horse or whatever you choice of mammal is this week.

There's tons of stuff a lot more interesting to discuss, the price of gas, Brittany Spears, or Paris Hilton, instead of this Mickey Mouse $hit.

If I was able to talk, I'd say End this Sucker Now. I'm getting cyber-sick and gonna barf on my keyboard. Now that's a mess that's worth dealing with.

Bruce

[dkerfoot]

Well, I tried giving love to everyone in this thread, but after 6 or 10, it told me I had no more reputation to give out today.

For a while I felt like the Candy Man.

Mostly I want to give Good Rep to Bruce Cohen. I disagree with his post, but would take pleasure in irritating him with Good Rep.

[Stytooner]

Hey people,

We've spent enough time on this meaningless nonsense to probably cure a major disease.

ENOUGH already, we're (me included) just beating a dead horse or whatever you choice of mammal is this week.

There's tons of stuff a lot more interesting to discuss, the price of gas, Brittany Spears, or Paris Hilton, instead of this Mickey Mouse $hit.

If I was able to talk, I'd say End this Sucker Now. I'm getting cyber-sick and gonna barf on my keyboard. Now that's a mess that's worth dealing with.

Bruce

Bruce, if I read something on the forum that made me feel like that, I think I might quit reading it just for my own health.

[Black wallnut]

What value if any is an anonymous rep click.

Here's another thought to ponder. An anonymous click for a bad rep could be from the same type that generates and disperses computer viruses.

Can not happen!

An anonymous click for a good rep, OTOH, is like a visit from the forum fairy godmother. Life then becomes worth living. Without being able to bestow thanks on the good will; love and happiness surges through the veins and arteries, a prolific ability to post non stop on forums, change driving habits to obey every law, join Greenpeace, Save The Whales, and The Peace Corps, and dedicate your life to feeding and educating the poor.

Hey, I just checked. Since this thread started, I've received 382 bad reps. Hahahahahahaha.
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Hmmm I just checked and you did not!
If this were so when any user hovered over the green box a small popup would say that you "can only hope to improve" I could fix that though......

Hey people,

We've spent enough time on this meaningless nonsense to probably cure a major disease.

ENOUGH already, we're (me included) just beating a dead horse or whatever you choice of mammal is this week.

There's tons of stuff a lot more interesting to discuss, the price of gas, Brittany Spears, or Paris Hilton, instead of this Mickey Mouse $hit.

If I was able to talk, I'd say End this Sucker Now. I'm getting cyber-sick and gonna barf on my keyboard. Now that's a mess that's worth dealing with.

Bruce

This topic will remain open if I have anything to do with it and AFAIK there are only two members that can over rule me. You will know it has run its course when it falls off the first page of topics. I think it is good to have these discussions. If for no other reason but to bring to light some how our forums software works. It is SOP to only close topics for a very narrow range of reasons.

Well, I tried giving love to everyone in this thread, but after 6 or 10, it told me I had no more reputation to give out today.

And yet more evidence of the built in safeguards to prevent abuse!

For a while I felt like the Candy Man.

Mostly I want to give Good Rep to Bruce Cohen. I disagree with his post, but would take pleasure in irritating him with Good Rep.

I wish to thank everyone for their honest feeling and thoughts on this topic! As many of you that have taken the time to read the entire topic may have gathered I like the reputation system. It can be a great tool. It really has a bunch of built-in safeguards to prevent abuse. Those that do not agree with it can simply ignore it. Those that value it and use it likely are genuinely interested in reading feedback so as to become a more positive poster. I'm troubled by those that have expressed dislike because of the anonymousness nature of this form of feedback and yet there are many that also have user names that conceal their identity, as does their public profile.

FWIW I have only used this feature 22 times with only 8 of those being negative. I was the 161st member to sign up. I have been very active the entire length of my membership. I think it would be fair to say that I have read at least 10% of the topics that have been posted. If my math is correct that means that in 3600+ topics that I have read only 22 have resulted in my using the system. Several of the negative comments were spent on spammers.

[Mrs. Wallnut]

UH-OH!!!!!!!!! Someone found out about my reputation. I knew that I should have been more careful.

I think that the reputation system is fine as it is and should stay the same. If you don't like it don't use and personally if someone doesn't like what I post or what I am like then I don't take it personally at all. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

To me this forum is another family there are many people here whom I consider close friends and haven't met a lot of them. Also I think that every family has their opinions and differences amongst themselves. Everything passes and people will start getting along again and another topic will come up to discuss.

Sorry if this offends or hurts anyone.

[leehljp]

I hope this posts. In the last 36 hours I have tried to post a reply on this topic 3 different times. As I pressed "Submit Reply" it hangs and times out. This happens to me at least once a week or more. I even have PM mail time out on me. Those attempted posts were different each time and nothing controversial - in and of the posts themselves.

Now, on to the real post:

Anyway, as a regular moderator/spam chaser, I can't see other people's "reputations", just mine and I didn't realize what that was until this topic started. LOML says I don't generally know an "insult" aimed at me when I see or hear it. But I usually am sensitive (perceptive) to even subtle insults to others, though.

I probably deserve some negative reps on my opinions on one topic because I don't care for unequal criticism of a well known popular saw just because it is inexpensive - when other saws have similar flaws and just as many proportionally in other areas of their design or manufacture. (Equality in criticism, equality in praise.)

Having said that, I don't think people here are equal in the reputation ratings with moderators (at least me) as they are with others. Is there a "hesitation" factor to rate moderators? If so, then that hesitation should be applied to all other members as well. Do you feel free to rate other members? Then apply this to us (at least me) as well. We are human as well. We do "try" to be unbiased (is there such a word) as possible. At least for me. AS for as the other moderators, - I feel they ARE unbiased; for me - I "try".

In my work, I am used to frequent critiquing by subordinates as well as my superiors. Accountability is a part of what I do and it makes me "check" myself and improves my unbiasedness.

Your opinions?

[Ed62]

Is there a "hesitation" factor to rate moderators? If so, then that hesitation should be applied to all other members as well. Do you feel free to rate other members? Your opinions?

I'm another one who doesn't think too much of the system. Practically everybody on the forums is really good at trying to help others, and just plain fun to "hang out" with.

The only time I ever used the rep points was a few days ago when I gave John a thumbs up. So there's no hesitation factor from me. Everyone gets the same (except John ).

I've been around long enough to more or less know most people on the forums, and I just don't think the rep points are something to be concerned about. So you don't get points from me, Hank. But I still love ya.

Ed

[Hellrazor]

I probably deserve some negative reps on my opinions on one topic because I don't care for unequal criticism of a well known popular saw just because it is inexpensive - when other saws have similar flaws and just as many proportionally in other areas of their design or manufacture. (Equality in criticism, equality in praise.)

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In my work, I am used to frequent critiquing by subordinates as well as my superiors. Accountability is a part of what I do and it makes me "check" myself and improves my unbiasedness.

Your opinions?

Hank,

Reputation points, etc are just another things to start problems. I have been using various forums for 10years or more and I have used the rep system only a handfull of times to tag spammers or trolls. If I say Ridgid is the best and you think Ryobi is the best, is that a rep issue? Nope. If you buy a "dark side" TS, is that worth a bad rep? Nope. Misuse of the rep system for stupid reasons is why I don't like them.

As far as critiquing moderators, that is up to the owner of the site, not us. Your IRL job is different than most, subordinants don't have a say in management issues in most companies. My crew can always go to my boss to whine when they don't like a job I give them. But they are going to do the job or insubordination writeup will follow by either one of us. Work isn't a democracy, someone has the wear the pants so to speak

[leehljp]

Hank,

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As far as critiquing moderators, that is up to the owner of the site, not us. Your IRL job is different than most, subordinants don't have a say in management issues in most companies. My crew can always go to my boss to whine when they don't like a job I give them. But they are going to do the job or insubordination writeup will follow by either one of us. Work isn't a democracy, someone has the wear the pants so to speak

Just to keep things honest here, while we do have strong accountability and rating systems in place, it "ain't" a democracy here either. And those under my supervision know it. I also know that from my supervisors. But we do listen openly to suggestions.

We (LOML and I) am not officially "management/leadership", more like an NCO/MSG. As such and with considerable experience in certain kinds or work with reproducible results, we are listened to up and down the chain.

[Hellrazor]

[QUOTE=leehljp;327205
We (LOML and I) am not officially "management/leadership", more like an NCO/MSG. As such and with considerable experience in certain kinds or work with reproducible results, we are listened to up and down the chain.[/QUOTE]

I am middle management (stuck in the middle). Director of our department, Supervisor for the department (me) and 28 employees and 4 subs. Never a dull day...