Forum User Reputation System

[Ed62]

I have no idea where you can see the results of these things. I do have 32 marks, but I cant tell if they are good, bad, or just plain ugly.
I don't take much stock in these things. It is a one sided poll type thing. Certainly not a consensus. At least not an accurate one. I have only hit the scale button myself just a few times and that was just to see what it was. Like most members, I tend to ignore it and whatever it contains, especially since most members do the same.

I have 37 marks, and I also don't know whether they are good or bad, with the exception of one (good). I didn't even know they existed until yesterday, when John mentioned it. I don't put much stock in these things either, but it would be interesting to see the results.

Ed

[Uncle Cracker]

I do not have a "Latest Reputation Received" heading in my CP. Possibly because I use Firefox? (I've seen that kind of thing happen before, although infrequently.) I probably don't wanna see it anyway...

[Black wallnut]

I do not have a "Latest Reputation Received" heading in my CP. Possibly because I use Firefox? (I've seen that kind of thing happen before, although infrequently.) I probably don't wanna see it anyway...

Check again. You should see it now. If you do not have any member generated reputation ponts then you will not see anything. I just added to your reputation. With the current forum software there is no noticable difference in what you will see between the latest Firefox browser and MS IE 7.0 and with a MS XP home or pro. Other browsers I'm not sure about, same with other OS.

[BigguyZ]

I do not have a "Latest Reputation Received" heading in my CP. Possibly because I use Firefox? (I've seen that kind of thing happen before, although infrequently.) I probably don't wanna see it anyway...

Hmm.... me neither....

[SARGE..g-47]

Good morning Mark.. First, thanks for your reply in an attempt to clear up the confussion. I am sort of a hands-on guy in the wood department and try to steer clear of hands-on in cyber-world where I am most definitely not qualifed to give an accurate fore-cast. But...

It has been fairly well established that John H... Ed.. Sytooner.. Cracker and myself had no real understanding of how the Reputation function works and several no idea it was even there. I won't speculate on how many others are in the same boat.. but a professional gambler would probably determine that the odds were on his side and slide his bet in the betting circle with confidence on More.

Being a "simple man" with a relish for keeping things "simple" even down to furniture design.. this functions appears to be "quite complicated' in design and de-coding the final result even more so. It appears that results could be determined by a "kangaroo court" of one or two and the truth.. the whole truth and nothing but the truth" is not necessarily being presented to a jury of 12 peers to determine an un-biased verdict of guilty or not guilty.

An example of such is John H.. who admittedly won't post in Around the Coffee Pot because of a reputation given by someone of unknown origin or intent! Now.. I just got through sending $100 in 2 parts to the Up-keep of the forum. If I had found what John thought was negative rating by other members, I might not have contributed and just moved on as I also post fairly regularly on two other forums.

But.. what John discovered last night and has been revealed in this discussion, is that the bad rating he got was over-turned by Ed with one stroke of a key and he is now a "good guy". Hmmmm....

Again.. I won't meddle in forum politics or attempt devine guidance as I have utmost "faith" that the moderators and Forum Admin. will always take any action and judge it with un-biased fairness and purpose that is best for all! And I will stand by their decision and respond accordingly.

Bottom line question is: Is the function necessary and even though probably initiated in good faith as an Aid.. could it not be abused easily and give the impression that you are no longer welcome and time to move on to greener pastures.

I'm going down to my shop to do what I do best.. and with the faith that you and the other moderator and possibly even Sam will do your best to at least give the thought some consideration. And if the function is left on.. I will as we have already suggested.. just ignore as the world still will rotate on it's axis regardless of what outcome!

With all due respect and highest regards for a simple solution...

[Uncle Cracker]

OK, it's there now... But I do remember seeing that I once had at some point a +2 reputation rating, and now I'm wondering where it went?? Oh well, guess it really doesn't matter since so few of us knew what it was, and even fewer used it...

[Crash2510]

Look under the heading of "Latest Reputation Received" center of page.

says I have rep pts but cant find wher i can read them either

[Crash2510]

The default is to grant each member with IIRC 10 positive points. If no one has added or subtracted to your reputation you will not see anything.

got ya start everybody with something because nobody wants to be a nothing

[messmaker]

Good morning Mark.. First, thanks for your reply in an attempt to clear up the confussion. I am sort of a hands-on guy in the wood department and try to steer clear of hands-on in cyber-world where I am most definitely not qualifed to give an accurate fore-cast. But...

It has been fairly well established that John H... Ed.. Sytooner.. Cracker and myself had no real understanding of how the Reputation function works and several no idea it was even there. I won't speculate on how many others are in the same boat.. but a professional gambler would probably determine that the odds were on his side and slide his bet in the betting circle with confidence on More.

Being a "simple man" with a relish for keeping things "simple" even down to furniture design.. this functions appears to be "quite complicated' in design and de-coding the final result even more so. It appears that results could be determined by a "kangaroo court" of one or two and the truth.. the whole truth and nothing but the truth" is not necessarily being presented to a jury of 12 peers to determine an un-biased verdict of guilty or not guilty.

An example of such is John H.. who admittedly won't post in Around the Coffee Pot because of a reputation given by someone of unknown origin or intent! Now.. I just got through sending $100 in 2 parts to the Up-keep of the forum. If I had found what John thought was negative rating by other members, I might not have contributed and just moved on as I also post fairly regularly on two other forums.

But.. what John discovered last night and has been revealed in this discussion, is that the bad rating he got was over-turned by Ed with one stroke of a key and he is now a "good guy". Hmmmm....

Again.. I won't meddle in forum politics or attempt devine guidance as I have utmost "faith" that the moderators and Forum Admin. will always take any action and judge it with un-biased fairness and purpose that is best for all! And I will stand by their decision and respond accordingly.

Bottom line question is: Is the function necessary and even though probably initiated in good faith as an Aid.. could it not be abused easily and give the impression that you are no longer welcome and time to move on to greener pastures.

I'm going down to my shop to do what I do best.. and with the faith that you and the other moderator and possibly even Sam will do your best to at least give the thought some consideration. And if the function is left on.. I will as we have already suggested.. just ignore as the world still will rotate on it's axis regardless of what outcome!

With all due respect and highest regards for a simple solution...

It sounds like the reputation function serves no purpose other than to upset. Perhaps we would be better if it were disabled if that is possible.

[Uncle Cracker]

It sounds like the reputation function serves no purpose other than to upset. Perhaps we would be better if it were disabled if that is possible.

I think it's a feature of the particular forum software that's in use, so I don't know if it can be disabled, but I think if everybody just ignores that it's there, it would serve the same as deleting it.

[TheRic]

It sounds like the reputation function serves no purpose other than to upset. Perhaps we would be better if it were disabled if that is possible.

IIRC this was brought up years ago and versions ago. It can not be totally removed. The numbers / parameters were set so there was very little or no difference. As in the "?????? is on a distinguished road" it will say that if you have 10 (the default Mark mentioned) or 200. Kind of surprised me that John's was different, I guess having only 1 and it being negative would do that. Would have thought the 10 to start would have just dropped to 9, still positive. I can not believe John would have had 10 negative posts, infact was surprised to here he had any.

I would vote to have it removed, if it can be done.

[Black wallnut]

It sounds like the reputation function serves no purpose other than to upset. Perhaps we would be better if it were disabled if that is possible.

I do not agree. It is a great tool to give and get input form others without generating the personal attacks that Three members have engaged in in this topic. Feedback is a gift.

For example if member A includes a negative comment aimed at member B in a Post, Member B can if he so wishes leave a comment and vote of disapproval of member A. Member C can upon seeing the mean-spirited post also leave a comment and vote for member A. So without stirring the pot on-line the disagreement is taken off-line. Member A logs into his CP and sees that members A and C have both left him negative feedback on his post.

[Stormbringer]

For example if member A includes a negative comment aimed at member B in a Post, Member B can if he so wishes leave a comment and vote of disapproval of member A. Member C can upon seeing the mean-spirited post also leave a comment and vote for member A. So without stirring the pot on-line the disagreement is taken off-line. Member A logs into his CP and sees that members A and C have both left him negative feedback on his post.

Now I'm dizzy.

Why not just do a poll and let the members decide. I would not miss it...I didn't even know it was there.

Greg

[gjat]

God bless you, Black wallnut. I've been a moderator on other boards before. It's a thankless job. You can never please everyone however reasonable, considerate, and openminded you attempt to be. I've read your posts over the couple of years I've lurked around here and think your personality and style are a great choice to be a moderator. Try not to get too engaged in trying to smooth out feelings and get worn out and frustrated trying to reasonably explain things. It's been pointed out that we all have unique perspectives and since were mostly middle-aged, our perspectives are starting to calcify. If you think you've been reasonable, rest assured, you probably were. Maybe not perfectly, but close enough for an unpaid job. Thanks.

[Black wallnut]

Forum User Reputation System

Folks I am moving a number of posts from the Rules II topic to this new topic. I see this as being a different topic altogether.

FWIW Sam is the only person that can turn the reputation feature on and off.