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  • cwsmith
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2005
    • 2807
    • NY Southern Tier, USA.
    • BT3100-1

    #31
    Okay, so as I see it, you sized up the situation fairly well. You spotted a bad driver, altered your driving to avoid her faults and hesitations, and having done so, pulled to the side, took stock that the lady was older, not a physical threat, and therefore possibly an easy target for your anger and intimidation. While I salute you driving skills, I respectfully question the actions that you took afterwards.

    I'm sorry, I hate bad drivers as much as anybody and will definitely use a few words and even go to lengths of getting their license number and reporting them to the authorities. But I also have some understanding of what some drivers go through and agree that maybe they shouldn't be driving. However, if you cannot contain your anger, maybe you shouldn't be driving either!

    Would you have gotten out of your car and rampaged your anger if the driver had been a 6ft 3, 240 lb skinhead wearing a local gang tatoo? If the answer is "No", then you exercised your power of superiority in this situation. So, how is that right? How would you have felt if the driver pressed charges against you (legally what you did was "assault"), or if she had a heart attack, or in her fear or resulting histeria rammed her car into someone on the sidewalk in an effort to get away from you?

    Moreover, how would you feel if this was your daughter or your wife, who perhaps wasn't feeling well that day and made a mistake, resulting in a verbal tirade as you described? Worse is that your attack may result in constant fear in the lady, that you will now be looking for her or even stalking her; because in all likelyhood you know her car, her license plate number, and you do remember her description.

    Sure, she was a bad driver and you were both watchful and skillful enough to avoid an accident, but what you did next was, in my opinion, foolish, self-centered, and intimidating. Certainly it was un-gentlemanly and lacked civility. While someone stated that the country is going to **LL, I think your actions only added to that claim.

    But, it appears that you are not alone in your feelings. As I look back at some of the post that agreed with your actions, I see some mention of bigger, more intimidating individuals boasting of their "ability" to intimidate under such circumstances... interesting and a bit disconcerning. I wonder how they would feel if thier mistakes were met with such anger and perhaps a weapon in hand to balance the odds. This is NOT what civilized people do and I think we all need to put such things in perspective and learn to handle our anger and frustrations a bit better. Remember, you aren't the only one who can have a bad day... and, you're not the only one who may feel the odds are on thier side. (Like what are you going to do if this lady spots you and your daughter in the local shopping mall and points you out to her 6ft 4 husband?)

    Respectfully,

    CWS
    Think it Through Before You Do!

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    • mudder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 1532
      • I live in a house
      • Delta 36-650

      #32
      Originally posted by crokett
      Hmm... this thread went in a different direction than I'd intended but here goes to adresss most of the issues raised....

      1. My personal safety - she was alone, 40ish and driving a volvo with make love not war-type bumper stickers. So I doubt she had some type of weapon.
      2. Self control - my OP gave the wrong impression, my fault. I was actually very much in control and any raising of my voice was calculated to get the reaction I wanted. I learned several years ago that sometimes not yelling is much more effective.
      3. Before I exited the car, I turned it off and took the keys. I also locked it.
      4. Stupid drivers in general - hopefully there is one less out there.
      Reading your original post and reading this reply I find it hard to believe.
      You must be really really good to be “shaking with rage” but notice her bumper sticker, get out, close and lock the door, and be at her car before she could exit?

      Scott

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      • crokett
        The Full Monte
        • Jan 2003
        • 10627
        • Mebane, NC, USA.
        • Ryobi BT3000

        #33
        Originally posted by cwsmith
        (Like what are you going to do if this lady spots you and your daughter in the local shopping mall and points you out to her 6ft 4 husband?)

        Respectfully,

        CWS
        Last year my wife did make a mistake and clipped a car bumper, for which she was yelled at by the other driver. Was I angry? Sure. Or at least until I thought about it for a few days afterward, since his child was in the car as well.

        I would quietly and calmly own up to my actions and ask him what would he have done if he were in my place.

        As for the other driver's peace of mind, I am not worried about that right now. Ask me again in a few months when I am able to watch my daughter play or sleep or eat or do whatever without thinking what might have been.

        Equally respectfully and my last word,

        Sam or another mod, please lock this thread
        David

        The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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        • Raymonator
          Established Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 158
          • Near Ottawa Ontario
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #34
          Well I'm not saying that smiling is the thing I would do, and I can understand getting angry when someone puts you or your family in a dangerous situation. That said, anger is something that has to be controled and managed, therefor, I don't think that hitting anybody over such an incident would accomplish much more than getting hit back, and possibly sued, and rightly so I think. It's one thing to explain the facts of life to somebody, even in an angry fashion, but I believe there is enough fighting in this world, without adding more to the streets due to loss tempers. Yes it's maddening to have some jerk cut us off and I guess it's normal to want to take that persons block off at that instant, but, we are human and we "all" make mistakes. I've even seen police officers make bad driving judgements or mistakes, when driving and they are on the road constantly. I'm just curious and wonder what your opinion would be let's say if it was your father or son who mistakenly cut somebody off, do you still think they deserve a punch from some agitated motorist ? That woman you told off (and maybe deservingly) was none the less a wife, mother or grandmother (maybe all 3) and I believe I would have handled the situation a little differently, then again in all honesty, I wasn't there. Just my 2 cents worth.
          Measure twice....cut once.
          Happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length (Robert Frost)

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          • Sam Conder
            Woodworker Once More
            • Dec 2002
            • 2502
            • Midway, KY
            • Delta 36-725T2

            #35
            Thread locked per original poster's request.
            Sam Conder
            BT3Central's First Member

            "I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." -Thomas A. Edison

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