Fixing stuff that breaks for no apparent reason.
Was working in the shop and hear air hissing pretty loud. Near the compressor. Which is of course hard to get to.
So I finish what I'm doing and investigate, awkward to reach but I can feel air blowing on my hand which means its a serious leak,
So I have on the QD of the compressor a 4-way manifold so in a close space I have at least a dozen or more junctions and threaded joints.
I've got three lines into the manifold all with QD. I'm twisting and turning all the QD to see if one is leaking because its not seated well, then I start swapping them.Still big leaks
unplugging one or another and not resolving it fast. And its a mess so I take an extension 50-ft PU hose and connect to the compressor. No leak. Then connect the manifold and the three hoses, I can still hear it, but now I'm able to dunk the manifold into the bucket of water I've brought to the party. Three leaks. Looks like one hose to QD nipple leaks slightly so I note that. And two QD females on the manifold are both leaking badly from around the base, it looks like.
Now this manifold I recall I picked up about 15 years ago when they were cleaning out some office and lab space, I found it abandoned so I gave it a home and used it for many years.Now its leaking like a sieve, kind of all of a sudden. It's a real *******. May have come from our European office because as it turns out all the brass fitting hex are 14 and 17 mm, not SAE. But the fittings are 1/4 NPT and Milton/industrial style at the ends.I spend a stupid amount of time trying to get it apart (this is where I find its part metric) and that I need a thin 17 mm wrench to get the female QD off. All wrenches I have are too thick.
I look at buying a tappet wrench but they're expensive and so now get a wild hair and find that Amazon, while not having cheap thin individual wrenches have 3, 4, and 5-way manifolds. Curiously the 5-way is the same price as the three way and both are cheaper than the four way. So for a little more than $16 I have a 5-way manifold. coming Monday.
Being an engineer I continue to mess with it and manage to find (I didn't know it) a threaded joint between the Knurl below the QD ring and the hex. I take off the top of the QD and now Its easy to get a wrench on the base hex. But not easy to get off. There's some kind of hard glue been applied to these threads. No Teflon tape, no pipe dope.The QDs are all off now after breaking the sealant (which in two of the four had failed).
Chase out the 1/4 NPT female holes with a tap to remove burrs and old adhesive. Oddly the Male NPT on the QDs was relatively short. Never seen them that short.
I think I could put some new QDs on this and make it work again. But the other is on the way. and I don't have 4 male NPT QDs and they'd still cost more than the new manifold at 5 bucks cheapest Amazon fitting.
Near as I can figure out the seal they put on the threads all failed after so many years for two of them to go at once. I really don't know if it was bought or made and why the mix of metric and SAE. Oh yeah, even the 1/4 NPT plug in the end has a metrics hex recess for Allen wrench.
Just a mystery.
I haven't drained the compressor in quite a while (lazy), I probably drained over 24 oz. of water from it.(bad on me)
And I reapplied Teflon tape to the slightly leaking hose stud.
Was working in the shop and hear air hissing pretty loud. Near the compressor. Which is of course hard to get to.
So I finish what I'm doing and investigate, awkward to reach but I can feel air blowing on my hand which means its a serious leak,
So I have on the QD of the compressor a 4-way manifold so in a close space I have at least a dozen or more junctions and threaded joints.
I've got three lines into the manifold all with QD. I'm twisting and turning all the QD to see if one is leaking because its not seated well, then I start swapping them.Still big leaks
unplugging one or another and not resolving it fast. And its a mess so I take an extension 50-ft PU hose and connect to the compressor. No leak. Then connect the manifold and the three hoses, I can still hear it, but now I'm able to dunk the manifold into the bucket of water I've brought to the party. Three leaks. Looks like one hose to QD nipple leaks slightly so I note that. And two QD females on the manifold are both leaking badly from around the base, it looks like.
Now this manifold I recall I picked up about 15 years ago when they were cleaning out some office and lab space, I found it abandoned so I gave it a home and used it for many years.Now its leaking like a sieve, kind of all of a sudden. It's a real *******. May have come from our European office because as it turns out all the brass fitting hex are 14 and 17 mm, not SAE. But the fittings are 1/4 NPT and Milton/industrial style at the ends.I spend a stupid amount of time trying to get it apart (this is where I find its part metric) and that I need a thin 17 mm wrench to get the female QD off. All wrenches I have are too thick.
I look at buying a tappet wrench but they're expensive and so now get a wild hair and find that Amazon, while not having cheap thin individual wrenches have 3, 4, and 5-way manifolds. Curiously the 5-way is the same price as the three way and both are cheaper than the four way. So for a little more than $16 I have a 5-way manifold. coming Monday.
Being an engineer I continue to mess with it and manage to find (I didn't know it) a threaded joint between the Knurl below the QD ring and the hex. I take off the top of the QD and now Its easy to get a wrench on the base hex. But not easy to get off. There's some kind of hard glue been applied to these threads. No Teflon tape, no pipe dope.The QDs are all off now after breaking the sealant (which in two of the four had failed).
Chase out the 1/4 NPT female holes with a tap to remove burrs and old adhesive. Oddly the Male NPT on the QDs was relatively short. Never seen them that short.
I think I could put some new QDs on this and make it work again. But the other is on the way. and I don't have 4 male NPT QDs and they'd still cost more than the new manifold at 5 bucks cheapest Amazon fitting.
Near as I can figure out the seal they put on the threads all failed after so many years for two of them to go at once. I really don't know if it was bought or made and why the mix of metric and SAE. Oh yeah, even the 1/4 NPT plug in the end has a metrics hex recess for Allen wrench.
Just a mystery.
- why its metric except for the 1/4 NPT - where did it come from
- why did they use a hard sealant
- why did they have multiple failures all at once
- Why are the 1/4 NPT males so short... were they modified in some way - I was thinking they were cut down to not sit so deep in the manifold threaded holes? perhaps they bottomed out before they sealed and were cut off and sealed with some odd stuff?
I haven't drained the compressor in quite a while (lazy), I probably drained over 24 oz. of water from it.(bad on me)
And I reapplied Teflon tape to the slightly leaking hose stud.
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