which do i keep?

[toolguy1000]

i presently have a ridgid tp1300ls. i got it new for ~$200. today, i picked up a NIB r4331 13" planer for $75. now the question is , which do i keep? right now, i have the 4331 on CL, but i wonder if selling the 4331 is really giving up a potentially better machine. thoughts?

[ivwshane]

I'm no expert but $75 for a current model with carraige lock, three dual sided knives seems like a keeper to me.

Your other model is over 9 years old, what could it possibly do better than the newer machine?

[greenacres2]

I recently sold an old 12" Delta for $125 on CL. If it were me...and it's not...i'd list the TP1300 on CL and keep the new one. My bet is that you'll more than cover the cost of the 4331. I'd agree that 3 knives and a carriage lock will be beneficial.

earl

[acauth1]

How did you swing such a good deal as that? That's 399.99 at my local HD.

i presently have a ridgid tp1300ls. i got it new for ~$200. today, i picked up a NIB r4331 13" planer for $75. now the question is , which do i keep? right now, i have the 4331 on CL, but i wonder if selling the 4331 is really giving up a potentially better machine. thoughts?

[tommyt654]

http://slickdeals.net/f/5794176-ridg...-B-M-only-YMMV , I'd keep the gray one as you usually say it carrys the lifetime guarantee vs the other newer models llsa

[cabinetman]

I would keep the new one.

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[toolguy1000]

How did you swing such a good deal as that? That's 399.99 at my local HD.

some HDs are clearancing the planers @ $99. i found the last one in a store and asked an asm for a better deal. probably just caught him on a good day.

[cwsmith]

I'm not up to date with the R4331... does it have the "carriage lock"?

If so, I'd probably keep that one and let the older 1300 model go. BUT, I'd want to do a bit of research though with regard to head movement problems. I may well be mistaken, but I recall reading of this problem, even on the latest model.

I myself had the choice of buying the 1300 (last one in the store) about three years ago, or the new 4330 which was just introduced. I chose the 1300, as I noticed the new 4330 did not have a cutter head lock.

Following that, there have been many reports of problems with the 4330, while I never read of a single problem with the older 1300. Unfortunately for me, is I still have not used the 1300 and it sits NIB, waiting for a seemingly constant delay in the finances needed to build my new shop.

The real old "gray" 1300 does carry a so-called "Lifetime Warranty" as opposed to the 2003-introduced "orange" 1300 which was eligible for the LLSA. But please note, that the "Lifetime Warranty" is only against defects in "materials and workmanship"... which after all this time would be hard to collect on, IMO. The LLSA is not transferable to second owners however. And that means that for warranty and service, you best bet would be to keep the newly purchased 4331, provided you don't find consistantly reported problems.

CWS

[dbhost]

I'd happily pay Home Depot $99.00 for the R4331 to get the lock, and the 4" dust port... Those are the two features from my Ryobi that are missing that REALLY bug me...

[phrog]

Finally, someone other than Tommy got a good deal. It's about time.

[vaking]

I'm no expert but $75 for a current model with carraige lock, three dual sided knives seems like a keeper to me.

Your other model is over 9 years old, what could it possibly do better than the newer machine?

How much you paid determines if this was a "you suck" deal or not, but it does not factor in the decision which to keep. Decision which to keep in my opinion depends on:
How much you can get for either of your planers if you sell them;
How do your planers compare between themselves in features, accuracy, warranties, reliability, life left, availability of spare parts, etc;
Personal attachments and preferences - if you are used to one and the other has a learning curve, etc.

[toolguy1000]

I'd happily pay Home Depot $99.00 for the R4331 to get the lock, and the 4" dust port

according to the 4331 OM, it oly supports a 2 1/2" hose. there doesn't apper to be a way to directly connect it to a 4" hose.

... Those are the two features from my Ryobi that are missing that REALLY bug me...

both the 1300 and the 4331 have carriage locks.

[toolguy1000]

I'm not up to date with the R4331... does it have the "carriage lock"?

yes, it does, as does the 1300.

If so, I'd probably keep that one and let the older 1300 model go. BUT, I'd want to do a bit of research though with regard to head movement problems. I may well be mistaken, but I recall reading of this problem, even on the latest model.

I myself had the choice of buying the 1300 (last one in the store) about three years ago, or the new 4330 which was just introduced. I chose the 1300, as I noticed the new 4330 did not have a cutter head lock.

Following that, there have been many reports of problems with the 4330, while I never read of a single problem with the older 1300. Unfortunately for me, is I still have not used the 1300 and it sits NIB, waiting for a seemingly constant delay in the finances needed to build my new shop.

The real old "gray" 1300 does carry a so-called "Lifetime Warranty" as opposed to the 2003-introduced "orange" 1300 which was eligible for the LLSA.

my 1300 is an orange unit and registered with the LSA. and the older gray units carried a lifetime guaranty. at least that's what's rpinted in their owners manual.

But please note, that the "Lifetime Warranty" is only against defects in "materials and workmanship"... which after all this time would be hard to collect on, IMO.

ridgid has yet to turn me down , though, on any of the 3 gray colored units i have.

The LLSA is not transferable to second owners however. And that means that for warranty and service, you best bet would be to keep the newly purchased 4331, provided you don't find consistantly reported problems.

CWS

thanks for the comments.

[toolguy1000]

I'm no expert but $75 for a current model with carraige lock, three dual sided knives seems like a keeper to me.

the 1300 also has a carriage lock and while it has two knives, it will accept a 4" DC hose, where the 4331 appears to be limited to 2 1/2" only.

Your other model is over 9 years old, what could it possibly do better than the newer machine?

i actually got my 1300 in 2011, NIB at a local HD. complete with the OEM tool stand. so it's only 2 years old and istill haven't had th eopportunity to push any material through it.

probably, it's my drum sander that makes the decision a little harder. the 1300 seems to be a tried and true design. the same basic unit is still sold by steel city and i've not seen any negative comments about the performance of the 1300. even if the cut quality of the 1300 is just a tick below that of the 4331, my drum sander would address that. and i really like the fact that the 1300 has both a 2 1/2" and a 4" dust port which can be attached to either side of the dust hood.

the 4331's benefits relative to the 1300 are an additional cutting blade and a chip ejector. but that chip ejector goes through what appears to be a 2 1/2" only dust port.

anyone's thought/opinions impacted by the addition of a drum sander to the discussion?

[toolguy1000]

How much you paid determines if this was a "you suck" deal or not, but it does not factor in the decision which to keep. Decision which to keep in my opinion depends on:
How much you can get for either of your planers if you sell them;

one poster elsewhere suggested selling both and getting a 15" stationary planer via CL.

How do your planers compare between themselves in features, accuracy, warranties, reliability, life left, availability of spare parts, etc;
Personal attachments and preferences - if you are used to one and the other has a learning curve, etc.

as they are both new, without any in shop use, it's hard to decide which features are the most valuable inligt of what i presently have. ordinarily, i'd go with the 3 cutter head unit, but that smaller dust port is a concern. insufficient dust removal is a primary cause of planer underperformnce/ failure.