What might you bid??

[greenacres2]

All right...an auction site that Tommy654 introduced me to has one that is within 5 miles of my house!! I'm bidding on a few items, actually may be able to pick up some stuff cheap. Then there is a listing that says:
"Sears 10 Table Saw w/ Incra-Jig Ultra Fence"

The only picture is really grainy, and the business name is not listed. Looks to be a TS-52 family fence. Can't inspect, already asked. Closes next Friday afternoon and i head out for a drag race on Tuesday, so my max bid has got to be proxy. Right now i'm the only bidder at $25 with a max of $62, but i don't think that will hold. Don't really need (or even really want) another TS, but if i could get into the Incra jig for the right money i'd like to give it a shot.

So...holding no one responsible (except Tommy who is either my inspiration or my pusher!!), given the circumstances--how far would you take the proxy bid if it were you?

Additional critical fact--if i win, i'll have to send SWMBO to get a cashier's check to get mailed while i'm gone--so i can't fudge on the amount or sneak a table saw into a garage we can't park in anymore. While i'm at a race track for a week. With winter coming. And usually when i go to a race for that long--some disaster happens at home (tree falls, basement floods, sink drain breaks, car won't start, tornado, blizzard, remnants of a hurricane...it's all happened!!)

Talk it up--pretend it's YOUR MONEY and YOUR MARRIAGE!!

earl

[greenacres2]

Forgot the picture

I forgot to add the only pic there is...

[jdon]

Boy, is that a lousy picture!

First, a caveat- I know nothing specific about Incra fences- accessories, etc., but assuming you do, I assume you're really interested only in the fence, and the table saw happens to be attached to it.

If so, figure what you're willing to pay just for the fence. Remove the fence and turn around and list the saw (minus fence) on CL. Around here those Craftsman saws are listed all the time, with an incredibly wide range of asking prices, but $150 to $200 seems to be the going rate. If you're not interested in prolonged listings/showings/negotiations, list for $100 (firm) for a quick sale (also, realize it's missing a fence!). So, add $100 to whatever you think the Incra is worth for your bid.

Personally, I think this saw is a real stinker, but I may be biased. My first saw was one of these that I bought new, oh so many years ago. I never could get the cast iron wings aligned (I think they were warped), the splitter/guard was clunky, the stock miter gauge was sloppy, etc. I didn't have the time, experience, or resources (such as this forum) to address these issues; I solved my headaches by getting a BT3000, and never regretted it. just my .02

[sweensdv]

Talk about a huge gamble! You have no idea what kind of condition the saw or the fence system is in so an educated guess is even out of the question. As I don't like to waste my money when buying things for the shop, the gambler in me might go as high as 50-55% the price of a new Incra system. The non-gambler in me on the other hand might pass altogether. Keep in mind that the TS will bring in little money if you try and resell it so basically you're bidding on the fence system with the saw being just something heavy that you have to bring with you when you pick-up the fence.

[pelligrini]

I don't know much about the incra fences, but most incra stuff I've used has been well made and accurate.

I wouldn't bid over $100, especially sight unseen and going on one bad photo. I wouldn't want that saw, fence system yes. The saw is old and lacking a riving knife, which I think is very important.

[Carpenter96]

Bid

Incra has the TS52 on for $460. It is always a gamble to buy used (No warranty) but to buy used and not be able to inspect the item is a really big gamble. I agree that $100 would be an absolute high bid. Regards Bob

[cabinetman]

The saw may not run. The fence could be bent or worse. It's a pig in a poke. I wouldn't get in on the bidding for more than $50.

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[greenacres2]

My gut tells me that $100 is the tops, but i may stay at $62 and kiss it good-bye if it goes above. I kind of started at $500 for retail, 50% for used, and half of that for being unseen and unknown--$125. I'm also bidding on about 2 dozen pipe and bar clamps, and i'd rather be able to take that bid to my budget--clamps are a need, Incra fence is a want.

Nobody commented on how to deal with SWMBO!! That's where i really need the help.

Earl

[LCHIEN]

an incra table saw fence is north of $400 when new, its aluminum so it won't be rusted.

Hard to believe a guy would even consider putting a $400 fence on a saw worth less than $400 (beginning price for contractor table saw with cast iron tables (looks like from the lousy pic) and belt drive...

[LinuxRandal]

Have you asked more questions then "can I inspect"? Asked if it was belt drive or direct drive (had models that looked similar and the direct drive don't sell as well)? Model of saw, model of fence? Local pickup or not (since you can't inspect I wonder if it is a shipping gotcha)? Asked for a less grainy picture?

Around here, the prices listed goes from $50 to $250 typically. The sweet spot where they don't last long, tends to be right around $100. But some of their older saws (50's to early 60's?) have stayed on there longer, in part due to looking like some of the older, 8" saws. (people are unsure which it is)

You already set your max, I would venture a guess there was a reason for that amount. Maybe you should leave your MAX as your MAX and not worry about it.

Just my $.02

[cabinetman]

Nobody commented on how to deal with SWMBO!! That's where i really need the help.

Earl

In most cases they have no idea what is going on. Some suggestions...

It's a deal of a lifetime.

It will save a lot of money over a long period of time.

It has a good resale value that might show a huge profit.

It's a step in mastering craftsmanship skills.

It's not the same as buying shoes and purses.

It's gloatworthy (but, she may not fully understand what that means among woodworkers).

.

[tommyt654]

I say Goll Dang the pusha man, lol, Good luck on your bid but see what happens @ 62 or less. Your not exactly in an area where a lot of bidding wars go on are you?

[pelligrini]

Nobody commented on how to deal with SWMBO!! That's where i really need the help.

Hehe, You're on your own there. I can't even figure mine out and I have dealt with her on a daily basis for decades. Now you want some advice on how to deal with yours.
I could make some assumptions, but I know for a fact thay will be wrong. Any assumption by a man dealing with a woman will be wrong, unless they just assume any deal can't be predicted (it can also reverse directions at any time, possibly multiple times).

[greenacres2]

It's a deal of a lifetime.--Uh, i'm beyond the lifetimes of a whole litter of cats already.
It will save a lot of money over a long period of time.--Maybe, but only by not spending more later!!
It has a good resale value that might show a huge profit.--She already knows that i won't resell anything, and is trying to keep the future estate auction at a minimum.
It's a step in mastering craftsmanship skills.--She's seen my work and knows a tool won't help!!
It's not the same as buying shoes and purses.--Unfortunately, she doesn't buy those much. Ummm...maybe that's fortunate!!
It's gloatworthy (but, she may not fully understand what that means among woodworkers).--She's pretty competitive--this one may actually work!!

The only other thought i have--if i can convince her it'll help the Cubs win the pennant...nah!!

Thanks

[greenacres2]

On a hunch, i called a client who is the leasing manager for a complex in the industrial park--turns out it's his tenant that walked, so it's his auction. So...Monday morning i'm going on a walk-through of the building!!

That will give to at least look. There's a few custom router set-ups that might be interesting. Won't be able to run any power tools, but i will be able to get hands on them.

earl