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  • Denco
    Established Member
    • Mar 2003
    • 426
    • Coming soon: California
    • BT3100

    #1

    Harbor Freight Adventure!

    I found this rather humorous, so I thought I'd share it.

    A short time ago, a thread here on BT3 started about the HF Oscillating Spindle Sander being on sale w/a coupon for $99. Then, during the thread, someone found a coupon for $89. My eyes started spinning and I heard angels sing. I was unable to refrain from ordering online. It was like I had no control of my hands on the keyboard. (I blame all of you).

    After speaking with LOML, she encouraged me to get it. In fact, I posted a thread about it, but then took it down because I thought I might be bragging too much. But, was excited to receive it. (Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!)

    Well, no sooner had I ordered it, it went back ordered. (rats).

    I got on the phone with HF and they said it'd be several weeks before it shipped. In fact, they backordered all items on my order except for a $4 item and shipping was still $7. So I cancelled my order, licked my wounds and went on with my life (as best any Red Blooded American Man can do with a bad case of Tool-Backorder-Disappointment-Syndrome).

    Well, happen to be down in CA to visit my son and DIL this weekend. LOML and son took me to HF in that area for a "We love you, Dad" shopping trip to HF and Rockler. They're next door to each other (how cool is that!). The mgr at HF was happy to accept the $89 coupon, so I bought the OSS.

    Threw it in the car, drove 450 miles back home. Plugged that sucker in tonight and watched it run....well, um, it went "grr, grr, wobble, wobble, wheeze, groan" then died. Wouldn't start again. (rats)

    Well, since the nearest HF is 70mi away, I opened the tool up and ran electrical checks on the switch, rectifier, motor, etc. No luck (rats).

    LOML was astonished that this cheap...um...inexpensive import tool would not work out of the box. The silly look on my face didn't help much, I fear.

    On a hunch, I took the brushes off the motor and cleaned them off. Reinstalled and fired the unit again. This time, it fired up just fine and made it through all my tests without a hitch.

    Dust collection port works really well. Since I had the unit in the dining room and it was raining pretty heavily outside between me and my shop, I hooked up my wife's Dyson vacuum to it for dust collection. LOML looked at me strange but was willing to hold the wand in the dust port for me while I tested it. Y'know, I really love that woman.

    So, if you buy one of these, they are pretty cool, but you may want to pull the brushes out and clean them before running the unit.....and make sure you keep your sense of humor about you.

    Don't rely too much on the user's manual......really, I mean it. It's fairly generic, but fortunately, the unit is pretty self explanitory.
    *****Measure twice, cut once.....rats, back to the lumber yard.*****
  • tommyt654
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 2334

    #2
    Thats fairly common with HF electrical tools,most of the smaller units they sell actually come with a spare set of brush's, Glad it worked out for you.

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    • toolguy1000
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 1142
      • westchester cnty, ny

      #3
      were the ridgid eb 4424 sanders not reduced in your market?
      there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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      • leehljp
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 8774
        • Tunica, MS
        • BT3000/3100

        #4
        WOW! I sure would have been frustrated! You sure have patience, and, glad it worked out!

        Speaking for brushes, I had a PC 680 router starting to run rough last month, sounding and feeling like a bearing was going bad. On a hunch, I checked the brushes and noticed that one of the brush caps was loose. Tightened it and it ran smooth again.

        Until then, I haven't had a brush problem with any of my tools but about once in the past 10 - 15 years! I have had a few HF tools sound rough and unusually loud. I just chalked that up to HF tools, but now that you mentioned that, I probably will check each "motorized" HF tool's brushes as I use them from now on just to make sure everything is OK. Wouldn't hurt.

        Thanks for the tip!
        Hank Lee

        Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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        • tommyt654
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 2334

          #5
          Blow them out occasionally as well Hank as a lot of that brush material will build up and cause further issues, I usually hit all mine with the air nozzle after each use as a general rule.

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          • cabinetman
            Gone but not Forgotten RIP
            • Jun 2006
            • 15216
            • So. Florida
            • Delta

            #6
            Originally posted by tommyt654
            Blow them out occasionally as well Hank as a lot of that brush material will build up and cause further issues, I usually hit all mine with the air nozzle after each use as a general rule.
            That's a good tip. I gotta say do it carefully and not with high pressure, as you can disorient some internal wiring or connection.

            .

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            • Pappy
              The Full Monte
              • Dec 2002
              • 10481
              • San Marcos, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 (x2)

              #7
              Not sure how humorous I would have found the situation, but your description of the ordeal certainly is! I think a new acronym has emerged from your writing.

              Tool-Backorder-Disappointment-Syndrome (TBDS)
              Don, aka Pappy,

              Wise men talk because they have something to say,
              Fools because they have to say something.
              Plato

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              • sweensdv
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2002
                • 2872
                • WI
                • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

                #8
                Originally posted by toolguy1000
                were the ridgid eb 4424 sanders not reduced in your market?
                I don't recall ever seeing them for under $199 in my market. I've been doing the HF, RIDGID back and forth for the better part of a year and in that time the Ridgid price has remained the same. What was the reduced price and when was it in your market?
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                • Denco
                  Established Member
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 426
                  • Coming soon: California
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Originally posted by toolguy1000
                  were the ridgid eb 4424 sanders not reduced in your market?
                  Nope. Only market in this area is a BORG and Lowe's. Neither tend to put bench tools on sale, just cordless drills, more cordless drills, and nothing but cordless drills. There's one actual tool store in town, but the prices are astronomical. Other than that, nearest source is 75miles away. (I'm in Oregon, we mostly have trees and rain). I tend to do most of my shopping online. Besides, I didn't want to pay more than $90 for an OSS. It won't see more than hobby use.

                  One nice thing about cheap tools is that I don't think twice about modifying them and making Franken-Tools.
                  *****Measure twice, cut once.....rats, back to the lumber yard.*****

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                  • tommyt654
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2334

                    #10
                    Toolguy lives near NYC, where there really are not too many woodworkers or highly skilled folks that would appreciate fine woodworking tools like the Ridgid for home use so they clearance a lot those tools out in that area after a few yrs trying to formulate what sells best, WW tools are not one of them and are gradually being phased out there for smaller units that might be better suited to the clientele (hand sanders,drills, etc), things folks in NYC like, say Pace picante sauce for example

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                    • toolguy1000
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1142
                      • westchester cnty, ny

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sweensdv
                      I don't recall ever seeing them for under $199 in my market. I've been doing the HF, RIDGID back and forth for the better part of a year and in that time the Ridgid price has remained the same. What was the reduced price and when was it in your market?
                      $49 on 1/25/12. this thread recaps the most recent price history at the new rochelle, ny store:

                      http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=54790
                      there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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                      • sweensdv
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 2872
                        • WI
                        • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

                        #12
                        Originally posted by toolguy1000
                        $49 on 1/25/12. this thread recaps the most recent price history at the new rochelle, ny store:

                        http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=54790
                        Oh yeah, I remember that thread now. I totally forgot about it though mainly because deals like that never happen around here so I don't consider them real.
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                        • dbhost
                          Slow and steady
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 9522
                          • League City, Texas
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          I have a neighbor who is literally a block away with his house positioned on the block the same as mine, that I tend to stop and talk to when I walk the dog. He has that HF spindle sander that he got about 3 or 4 years ago I am guessing, anyway he had the same problem with that, and a HF router. I have yet to have any issues internally with any thing I bought from them, although I did have a set screw from the pivot on my miter saw work its way loose. Nothing a dab of loctite wouldn't fix...

                          He has gotten to the point he unboxes the tool, pulls the brushes, cleans them and reassembles it prior to firing it up for the first time...

                          My Central Machinery tools haven't come with extra brushes, but my Chicago Electric has. Go figure...

                          Glad to know you got a deal on it. That should serve you pretty well for a long time...
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                          • JimD
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4187
                            • Lexington, SC.

                            #14
                            After several very unsatisfactory experiences I never order from HF. I buy from them often in their store near me but I do not order from their website. Their delivery timeframe to me (on the east coast) is just ridiculous. It doesn't matter what they say, it will be at least 8 weeks.

                            I've purchased few electrical tools from HF but will keep the brushes in mind if I have a problem.

                            Jim

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                            • chopnhack
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 3779
                              • Florida
                              • Ryobi BT3100

                              #15
                              Rochester or any part outside of the five boroughs is not considered NYC. There are a fair amount of woodworkers in NY, just not that many in the city.
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