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  • TheOne
    Forum Newbie
    • Mar 2006
    • 21

    #1

    DC time

    Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone has either of these DC's.

    http://www.busybeetools.com/products...C-BAG-CSA.html

    http://www.busybeetools.com/products...ICRON-CSA.html

    The guy I was talking to was pushing the more expensive one for it's better build quality, being built in Taiwan & the cheaper one in China of course. The CFM for both seems rather doubtful but it is a significant upgrade from the 3HP Shop Vac I have had for a few years now. I have a very limited budget and if the only real difference is where it comes from I don't mind spending less.

    I have a basement shop 16 X 12 and move my Vac from machine to machine now. I will do the same with the new DC.

    TIA.
  • natausch
    Established Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 436
    • Aurora, IL
    • BT3000 - 15A

    #2
    Not familiar with Busy Bee, but that brand looks like the equivelent of WoodTek, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    Since you won't have access to Harbor Freight (unless you're close enough to shoot over the border) the smaller one should do fine assuming you don't take too large of passes on your Jointer/Planer.

    But, if you want to save up for the larger version you could make a Thein Seperator for the price of a barrel, a couple fittings and scrap wood. If you google it or search this board you should be able to piece it together.

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    • dbhost
      Slow and steady
      • Apr 2008
      • 9523
      • League City, Texas
      • Ryobi BT3100

      #3
      Just IMHO here, but I personally bypassed a LOT of DCs because of the low CFM and HP ratings. To be blunt. ALL of the DC manufacturers lie about the ratings, they are all MUCH lower than advertised, and the 1HP units are marginal at their given ratings...

      IF you can come up with the $$, you would be best off with a 1.5 to 2 HP DC like a Delta 50-760, or similar...
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      • vaking
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2005
        • 1428
        • Montclair, NJ, USA.
        • Ryobi BT3100-1

        #4
        I am not familiar with this brand but I have a small dust collector. I have a Jet JSL-610, which is 610 cfm and 3/4hp. It does a good job supporting one machine at a time. No equipment in my shop has 4" dust collection outputs so I made my own separator which also allows me to split single 4" dust collector pipe into 2 hoses 2.5" diameter each (one with the blast gate). This way I can connect the same dust collector to 2 points on the same machine if it has it. I use 2 hoses for table saw (back plus Shark guard) and router table. I use single hose for my little jointer. For my needs it is sufficient. If you have beefy systems with 4" outputs - you probably want bigger.
        Alex V

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        • woodturner
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 2049
          • Western Pennsylvania
          • General, Sears 21829, BT3100

          #5
          Originally posted by TheOne

          The guy I was talking to was pushing the more expensive one for it's better build quality, being built in Taiwan & the cheaper one in China of course. The CFM for both seems rather doubtful but it is a significant upgrade from the 3HP Shop Vac I have had for a few years now.
          The more expensive one states the static pressure, the other one does not.

          Static pressure is a measure of suction. You need the static pressure to pick up dust and chips, and the CFM to keep it moving. The 6" of static pressure for the more expensive unit is marginal, but may work for smaller machines. As a point of reference, my DC is 1150 CFM at 11" of static pressure. It is adequate but certainly not oversized for a 12" portable planer, for example.
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