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  • chopnhack
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2006
    • 3779
    • Florida
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #1

    Tool cycle time

    I was running my dust collector (delta 50-720) for about an hour this morning while milling up some wood for a shop project and noticed that the motor housing was kinda hot. I called Delta and they told me that the 50-720 DC is recommended at a 50% duty time. I asked for further clarification and the customer service rep put me on hold while he spoke with a senior engineer. Apparently their recommendation is to run the machine no longer than 1/2 hour with a 1/2 hour break Ain't that some bull$ I thought that was too short of a time while working on projects. Anyone else concerned about their tools "duty cycle"?
    I think in straight lines, but dream in curves
  • cabinetman
    Gone but not Forgotten RIP
    • Jun 2006
    • 15216
    • So. Florida
    • Delta

    #2
    I'll bet some manufacturers have recommended "duty cycles", and for the life of the tool, it may pay to adhere to the suggestions. But, I've never been worried about that. I've never "fried" a DC. I've run them for hours on end when going from one machine to another. Sure, they get hot. I try to keep motors clean, which probably helps a lot. I can't see stopping work to wait for something to cool.
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    • Mr__Bill
      Veteran Member
      • May 2007
      • 2096
      • Tacoma, WA
      • BT3000

      #3
      For me the thermal overload switch (or whatever it's called) usually dictates the duty cycle.

      I did in the past burned up several hammer drills before the dealer told me I had gotten the last replacement, then found out the duty cycle was 10 0/0. After that when needed I rented a heavy duty one.

      Wonder what it is for the BT3000?

      Bill
      over here where it's still morning

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      • leehljp
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 8774
        • Tunica, MS
        • BT3000/3100

        #4
        Originally posted by Mr__Bill
        For me the thermal overload switch (or whatever it's called) usually dictates the duty cycle.

        I did in the past burned up several hammer drills before the dealer told me I had gotten the last replacement, then found out the duty cycle was 10 0/0. After that when needed I rented a heavy duty one.

        Wonder what it is for the BT3000?

        Bill
        over here where it's still morning
        There used to be a fellow or two on here a few years ago that was using the BT3000 as a professional saw - and after a couple of years and a couple of machines, decided it wasn't up to snuff for 8 hour days, 5 days a week of cutting 1" and 2" and 3" stuff. Blamed the BT for its lack of umph and endurance!

        Shucks, I am not a professional, but I have enough sense to know that the BT will not stand up under that kind of load. But it does VERY well and with precision for one who will take the time and treat it like a fine tool. Those folks were trying to cheat their pocketbooks and when it didn't work, blamed the tool!

        Now David (I think that is his name) in Aussie land used the BT and did some BEAUTIFUL custom work.
        Hank Lee

        Experience is what you get when you don't get what you wanted!

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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          Originally posted by leehljp
          l!

          Now David (I think that is his name) in Aussie land used the BT and did some BEAUTIFUL custom work.

          That might have been Dave-In-Cairns.
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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 22010
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            that's interesting.
            Maybe we can fudge and say 8 hours on and 16 hours off = only 33% duty cycle.
            of course that would be 8 hours without a break.

            seriously, is it still heating up after an 1/2 hour or is it at equilibrium by then?

            ITs also hard to compare to a power tool, because, for DCs the motors are operating near 100% load whenever the blower is on. But for power tools like a BT3000 or even a Unisaw, the power level and hence internal heat, is a function of load. cross-Cutting thin stock might just load a few amps every few seconds whereas ripping a 10' 4x4 might run 15 A for a minute.

            Overloading a saw past its capability really makes the heat take off.

            As a matter of course, I'd not use the BT3 for endlessly ripping 2x4's. I'd do some, do something else, then do a few more, then do something else. I don't think it's meant to be a heavy-duty workhorse.

            One final note about the DC... a lot depends on the temperature of the room. A motor operating at the same workload will hit a temperature 40 degrees higher if operated at a room temperature of 100 degrees vs. being operated at 60 degrees room temperature.
            Last edited by LCHIEN; 10-11-2010, 01:01 PM.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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            • Sawatzky
              Established Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 359
              • CA
              • Ridgid TS3650

              #7
              I have that very same dust collector and I notice it gets hot when it runs for a while. Mine is usually in the sun while running too when my garage door is open. I just figured motors get hot when running. I probably never run it for more that 10 minutes at time though, because it is only hooked up to my table saw, and I turn it off when I am not using the TS.

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              • Tom Slick
                Veteran Member
                • May 2005
                • 2913
                • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                • sears BT3 clone

                #8
                Unless the motor is so hot you can't hold your hand on it you don't need to worry about its temperature.
                Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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