Sharpening: Anyone used the HF Wet sharpener?

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  • tkarlmann
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    • Dec 2003
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    #1

    Sharpening: Anyone used the HF Wet sharpener?

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33867

    Has anyone used this? Wondering if they have any fixture for jointer/planer knives.
    Thom
  • softop41
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    • Jul 2004
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    #2
    tk..........
    I don't own one but I think I remember reading a thread somewhere that said the worm gear that drives the horizontal wheel is plastic and failed pretty early.
    Jerry
    Jerry
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    • tkarlmann
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      #3
      HF Sharpener

      Originally posted by softop41
      tk..........
      I don't own one but I think I remember reading a thread somewhere that said the worm gear that drives the horizontal wheel is plastic and failed pretty early.
      Jerry
      Thanks Jerry! I was expecting there to be an attachment for jointer/;planer knives anyway, and did not see one. Does not look good.

      Any good alternatives for a horizontal wet sharpener?
      Thom

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      • Hoover
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        • Mar 2003
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        #4
        here's from from Grizzlyhttp://www.grizzly.com/products/8-Gr...arpener/T10097
        Attached Files
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        • Knottscott
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          #5
          I've got a Scheppach Tiger 2000 that works on pretty much the same principle. It's worked well for over a year now, and would recommend it on sale....I think I paid in the $108 to $130 range.



          Never tried the planer blade attachment:
          Happiness is sort of like wetting your pants....everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth.

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          • tkarlmann
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            #6
            I was looking for a HORIZONTAL ...

            Thanks guys. I thought I wanted a horizontal wet sharpener, as they do dot put a bevel in the knife. Doesn't the bevel weaken the knife for use in a jointer? This would also flatten the face of the knife.

            Looked at the Makita 9820-2, only less $$$. Thoughts?

            P.S. Just joined Photobucket -- cannot get the correct IMG links out of the darn thing -- help?
            Last edited by tkarlmann; 11-18-2009, 10:37 AM.
            Thom

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            • dbhost
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              • Apr 2008
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              #7
              If it's not obvious by now, I don't mind buying Harbor Freight if the product offers performance, durability, and price that I am willing to deal with. Having said that, I am eyeballing the Grizzly sharpener...
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              • tkarlmann
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                #8
                Yup

                Originally posted by dbhost
                If it's not obvious by now, I don't mind buying Harbor Freight if the product offers performance, durability, and price that I am willing to deal with. Having said that, I am eyeballing the Grizzly sharpener...
                I think the Makita 9820-2 (also available from Grizzley) makes the Worksharp look sick.

                Apparently no one has the HF sharpener?

                No one willing to state that a hollow bevel for jointer blades is OK?
                Thom

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                • dbhost
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by tkarlmann
                  ...No one willing to state that a hollow bevel for jointer blades is OK?
                  I could lie to you, but I honestly don't know for sure. My jointer uses disposable knives.
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                  • tkarlmann
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dbhost
                    I could lie to you, but I honestly don't know for sure. My jointer uses disposable knives.
                    I researched one option for that. The Co. wanted $222.00 for the 'kit', then ~$25 for each set of three double-sided knives. It seemed to me the economics were very close to the ~$15 for regular HSS blades, and also ~$12-$15 for a sharpening service.

                    Did yours come with the jointer, or was it an after-market?
                    Thom

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                    • phrog
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by tkarlmann
                      I think the Makita 9820-2 (also available from Grizzley) makes the Worksharp look sick.

                      Apparently no one has the HF sharpener?

                      No one willing to state that a hollow bevel for jointer blades is OK?
                      In his book, "The Complete Guide to Sharpening," Leonard Lee advises the use of professional sharpening service for jointer blades. If you do sharpen them yourself, he advises the use of a wet horizontal grinder with special jointer knife honing jigs. Guess he doesn't like hollow grinding for these knives. If you do sharpen the knives yourself he advises to make sure you remove exactly the same amount of material on each knife to keep the cutterhead properly balanced.
                      Richard
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                      • leehljp
                        The Full Monte
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 8774
                        • Tunica, MS
                        • BT3000/3100

                        #12
                        Originally posted by tkarlmann
                        I think the Makita 9820-2 (also available from Grizzley) makes the Worksharp look sick.
                        The Worksharp is in a different category than the Makita.

                        The Makita and its stone is a single (final) grind machine and does that well. I don't have the Makita but another Japanese brand very similar. It is not good for getting a dull or knicked blade to sharp, but rather for taking "shaped" blades to very sharp.

                        The Worksharp has multiple grades for working at different stages of tool sharpening. For the final stage comparison, I would take the Makita over the Worksharp. But if I had only one, I would take the Worksharp.

                        Apparently no one has the HF sharpener?
                        I don't have the model in the original link above but I do have
                        this one. It is this model that had the gear problem also mentioned above.

                        As to the horizontal HF sharpener, if the stone is OK then it would be a good buy in my opinion. But that type of stone is good for final sharpening and does an excellent job of that. The problem is that it is not meant to be used to take a roughly shaped edge and bring it down to final shaping & sharpening. It can do it but it would be like starting with 400+ sandpaper on a bandsawn cut to bring it smooth.
                        Last edited by leehljp; 11-19-2009, 05:12 PM.
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                        • tkarlmann
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by leehljp
                          The Worksharp is in a different category than the Makita.

                          The Makita and its stone is a single (final) grind machine and does that well. I don't have the Makita but another Japanese brand very similar. It is not good for getting a dull or knicked blade to sharp, but rather for taking "shaped" blades to very sharp.

                          The Worksharp has multiple grades for working at different stages of tool sharpening. For the final stage comparison, I would take the Makita over the Worksharp. But if I had only one, I would take the Worksharp.
                          The Makita I'm looking at has three stones: 60, 1000 and 6000 grits. Isn't this enough? I'm not sure how one flattens or maintains the stones on the horizontal grinders though.
                          Thom

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                          • leehljp
                            The Full Monte
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 8774
                            • Tunica, MS
                            • BT3000/3100

                            #14
                            Originally posted by tkarlmann
                            The Makita I'm looking at has three stones: 60, 1000 and 6000 grits. Isn't this enough? I'm not sure how one flattens or maintains the stones on the horizontal grinders though.
                            That should do well! I have a hardened flat steel plate (2 in X 8 in X 1/2 in) with approx. 1/16 wide by 1/8 in deep groves in it at about every 1/2 inch. I can't remember the specific name of it - but I have some some hard steel like powder and use in on the steel plate with oil or water - I use this to flatten the finer stones.
                            (I purchased this in Japan.)
                            Last edited by leehljp; 11-19-2009, 11:17 PM.
                            Hank Lee

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                            • dsinger
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                              • Jan 2007
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                              #15
                              I have the Harbor Freight Sharpener and the Sheppach Tiger. They are both very similar the Tiger appears to be better built in a metal case vs plastic for the HF. The Tiger is at my summer cottage so does not get the use of the HF which is a mainstay in my garage workshop in S Florida. The sharpening wheels are similar likely from the same company. To be honest I have no complaints on the HF unit. It has allowed my to keep my plane irons and turning gouges sharp. For the plane irons I use the jig that came with the unit until recently when I purchased the Accusharp jig from grizzly. After the irons are on the HF i put them on a 6000 waterstone followed by the leather wheel on the HF a simple and effective process. I do not have a jig for jointer planer knives but you should be able to use the Tormek jig. I do not need frequent sharpening of jointer and planer knives.
                              In summary at the price of the HF unit certainly when on sale use the difference between the Grizz for some jigs!

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