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  • toolguy1000
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1142
    • westchester cnty, ny

    #1

    naval jelly rust remover

    does anyone have any first hand experience with this product relative to removing heavy surface rust from cast iron tool tables?

    http://www.loctiteproducts.com/produ...id=47&plid=169

    the used band saw i recently purhchased has some heavy rust.



    the usual approaches of scotchbrite type scrubbers, sanders, sand paper (220 only) and wd-40 and topsaver have been effective at smoothing the surface, but not removing all the embedded stains. personal insights would be appreciated. thanks.
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  • ragswl4
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1559
    • Winchester, Ca
    • C-Man 22114

    #2
    Originally posted by toolguy1000
    does anyone have any first hand experience with this product relative to removing heavy surface rust from cast iron tool tables?

    http://www.loctiteproducts.com/produ...id=47&plid=169

    the used band saw i recently purhchased has some heavy rust.



    the usual approaches of scotchbrite type scrubbers, sanders, sand paper (220 only) and wd-40 and topsaver have been effective at smoothing the surface, but not removing all the embedded stains. personal insights would be appreciated. thanks.
    Not trying to duck your question but would it be cost prohibitive to have the surface milled? I have used naval jelly on heavy corrosion (when I was in the Navy actually) and was not impressed with the results. As I remember it stained the metal. Perhaps it has improved in 40 years.
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    • cgallery
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2004
      • 4503
      • Milwaukee, WI
      • BT3K

      #3
      What you have there is a job for WD-40, an orbital sander, and some 3M pads. Go to owwm.org, I think they have an FAQ on how to proceed.

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      • codaman33
        Forum Newbie
        • Dec 2004
        • 59
        • Houston, TX, USA.

        #4
        All you need is a little Evapo-Rust. Great stuff. You can stick your hand in the container without gloves. Non toxic and biodegradeable. You get it from Harbor Freight for $20 per gallon. Trust me, you will like it. Go to youtube and look at my buddies bandsaw. That is what we used for it. Just soak it, clean it, and then lubricate/protect it. Good luck.

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        • dbhost
          Slow and steady
          • Apr 2008
          • 9555
          • League City, Texas
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          I have used both Naval Jelly, and Evaporust. Don't bother with Naval Jelly. Evaporust is the product you want for that sort of rust. I had something similar to that on my drill press when I got it, all gone now. The sections where I tried Naval jelly look horrid.
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          • LinuxRandal
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2005
            • 4890
            • Independence, MO, USA.
            • bt3100

            #6
            Price Evaporust and your scrubbing pads, etc.

            Then price the cost of a replacement table as well. Since you got it so cheap, you MIGHT (might not) be money ahead, if it is really pitted. (can't tell from the pics)
            She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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            • cgallery
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2004
              • 4503
              • Milwaukee, WI
              • BT3K

              #7
              Originally posted by dbhost
              I have used both Naval Jelly, and Evaporust. Don't bother with Naval Jelly. Evaporust is the product you want for that sort of rust. I had something similar to that on my drill press when I got it, all gone now. The sections where I tried Naval jelly look horrid.
              I used Rust-Free (I think that is what it is called, it came in a pack from the guys that make Boeshield). It turned the steel I used it on a dull gray. I had previously read that naval jelly does the same thing. So I just kinda assumed that all these chemical rust treatments do the same thing.

              So Evaporust keeps the cast iron shiny?

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              • toolguy1000
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 1142
                • westchester cnty, ny

                #8
                fortunately, the top is unpitted. while scotchbrite pads, wd-40, topsaver, oscillating and vibrating sanders and even 220 grit sandpaper have removed the rust and made the table smooth, there are dark stains which seem to have "soaked" into the surface. these are the stains i am attempting to remove so as to return the top to as new condition without re-grinding. after reviewing evaporust videos, it seems to do a good job on surface rust but seems to leave embedded stains in the metal. is this accurate?
                there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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                • cabinetman
                  Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 15216
                  • So. Florida
                  • Delta

                  #9
                  Originally posted by toolguy1000
                  fortunately, the top is unpitted. while scotchbrite pads, wd-40, topsaver, oscillating and vibrating sanders and even 220 grit sandpaper have removed the rust and made the table smooth, there are dark stains which seem to have "soaked" into the surface. these are the stains i am attempting to remove so as to return the top to as new condition without re-grinding. after reviewing evaporust videos, it seems to do a good job on surface rust but seems to leave embedded stains in the metal. is this accurate?



                  WD-40 and silicone carbide wet-or-dry sandpaper used on a block works well with a very wet solution of WD-40. Wipe clean after use. Then immediately wipe down with lacquer thinner, or better yet acetone. The stains should come out if the top doesn't have time to dry between the WD-40 and the solvent.
                  .

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                  • codaman33
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 59
                    • Houston, TX, USA.

                    #10
                    Originally posted by cgallery
                    I used Rust-Free (I think that is what it is called, it came in a pack from the guys that make Boeshield). It turned the steel I used it on a dull gray. I had previously read that naval jelly does the same thing. So I just kinda assumed that all these chemical rust treatments do the same thing.

                    So Evaporust keeps the cast iron shiny?
                    Evaporust just getting in everywhere and cleans the rust out in about 1 to 2 hours for not so badly rusted items as long as overnight for bad items. You won't get the graying of other products, you simply have to wipe it off. I use it on all of my hand planes and any major rust projects that I have. I don't scrub, I soak. And on my friends bandsaw from ****, we soaked anything and everything that we could fit in a tub or container. The table top had to be done by hand, wire wheel, mainly because it took 3 people to more. It's kind of big.

                    But as far as evaporust goes, I swear by it.

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                    • cgallery
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 4503
                      • Milwaukee, WI
                      • BT3K

                      #11
                      Originally posted by toolguy1000
                      there are dark stains which seem to have "soaked" into the surface.
                      I think those run fairly deep and my recollection is that they're here to stay. You could ask over at owwm.org, but I'm pretty sure that stains like those are permanent.

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                      • crokett
                        The Full Monte
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 10627
                        • Mebane, NC, USA.
                        • Ryobi BT3000

                        #12
                        When I bought my jointer the top was rusted. I used WD-40, a scrubbing pad and elbow grease to get it clean. It also has those stains on it. I tried a few things to remove them but couldn't. Waxing it helps hide them. I don't worry that much -function has always been much more important to me than form.
                        David

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                        • eezlock
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 997
                          • Charlotte,N.C.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          naval jelly rust remover

                          I think it would be a better approach to try electrolysis rust remover. I have used it and it works good! If you are not familiar with electrolysis, go to the
                          OWWM site, you'll find all the info you need to get started and it is cheap too!

                          If you have a large plastic container, an automotive battery, you have most of the things needed to get started.Try it, it works and you like it.

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