delta 50-860 air cleaner

[steve_ma]

I might have an opportunity to get a 50-860 for $125, supposedly still in the box, new. My shop is 30x15 so seems big enough. I havent found any bad reviews for it, but I once planning to get the Jet 1000B - it seems to have gone way up in price.
Seems like the filters are expensive and a bit hard to find for the delta, plus its no longer made. I have no experience with these things, plus I am not sure where to hang it - I dont have many places I dont need the headroom.
Anyone have any knowledge of this unit? Thanks

[MikeMcM1956]

Steve,

I have a Delta AP200, pretty much the same machine. The outer filters on mine are standard size 12x24, you can pick them up at any 'big box' store. And the inner 3 pocket filter is also still available from a variety of sources. Other than the motor, there's really no parts to worry about. I've had mine for about 10 years, still going strong. $125 is a great price, especially new.

You do need to be able to hang it, towards the edge of a wall is fine and keeps the air circulating round the room better. This unit should not be considered a replacement for a dedicated dust collector, its purpose is to pick up the stuff that doesn't get pulled into your dedicated D/C.

Mike

[LCHIEN]

i have the 50-860, it works fine. The later 50-875 has multi-speeds an remote control. I put one on a rotary timer siwtch, I can turn it on for say 4 (settable up to 12) hours and then it goes off. That's so I can keep scrubbing the air for a couple of hours after I leave and lock up for the night.

The coarse filters are the ones that get replaced freqeuently and are standard furnace filter sizes.
The inner 1 micrro pocket filter is expensive but still obtainable, in fact it fits the 50-875.

Like mike said, run this to capture the fines that escape sanding and dust collectors, not as a main dust collector itself.

[Uncle Cracker]

I have had the 50-875 multi-speed with timer and remote for several years, and it has done its job without giving me any trouble.

[MikeMcM1956]

Like Loring, I added a rotary timer to mine when I first bought it. Picked it up at the BORG and wired it into a switchbox screwed onto the outside of the unit. Highly recommended if you've got an older unit without a timer....

Mike

[footprintsinconc]

i would say that its a good deal and from what i have read, they are real good filters.

i too need to get one, only after i start ww again.....

[LCHIEN]

here's the spring-wound timer. Intermatic. Get the 12 hour one. Like FF12HC
I got mine at Lowes for around $10 but they retail for up to $20.

http://www.intermatic.com/products/t...%20timers.aspx

[steve_ma]

Thanks. I dont have a dedicated DC. I use my shop vac, but not all the time. I guess I was thinking that when I dont use the shop vac, at least it will get the dust out of the air. I dont care about the sawdust on the ground.

[LCHIEN]

Thanks. I dont have a dedicated DC. I use my shop vac, but not all the time. I guess I was thinking that when I dont use the shop vac, at least it will get the dust out of the air. I dont care about the sawdust on the ground.

you need to use it even when using the shop vac. When using a shop vac for dust collection, its easy to get fooled into thinking you are colecting a lot of dust. Fact is, with their limited volume/velocity, much of the fines that are bad for you escape the shop vacs at the point of collection and are thrown into the air. If your SV doesn't have a HEPA filter what fines it does get are also blown out the exhaust of the SV into the air.

[jussi]

When do you use an air cleaner? Do you only use it when you use the DC or continue using it after you're done cutting? How long do you leave it running for?

[JR]

When do you use an air cleaner? Do you only use it when you use the DC or continue using it after you're done cutting? How long do you leave it running for?

I use mine pretty much any time I'm cutting or sanding, then leave it running for a while.

I also use it when smoking cigars. It facilitates domestic tranquility.

JR

[jussi]

I use mine pretty much any time I'm cutting or sanding, then leave it running for a while.

I also use it when smoking cigars. It facilitates domestic tranquility.

JR

Ok. I was confused on its use because I thought the fan on the air cleaner would just end up blowing the dust around.

[LCHIEN]

When do you use an air cleaner? Do you only use it when you use the DC or continue using it after you're done cutting? How long do you leave it running for?

i use it when running any power tools or any dust raising activities, eg sweeping up, sanding, etc.

So basically it runs while i'm in the shop unless i'm just in there looking for something or measuring.

The DC only runs when the machinery its hooked to is on.

I let the Air cleaner run for a couple of hours after I leave, to get any suspended dust out of the air.

Thay have specs like 500 CFM, a 20x20x8 shop would have 3200 Cu Ft.
theoretically the shop air would all be cleaned in 6-1/2 minutes. But since we don't have a way to guarantee every cu ft of air is fed thru the AC but there's only maybe 10% chance that it does get sucked in we overkill by running it for 10 or 20 times longer than a single air change to increase the chance. hence 2 hours. Hopefully you'll get 90% of the air cleaned that way