Standard angle for chisels and planes?

[LCHIEN]

I've been looking at the W2000 Worksharp.
One limit for it is that it only has the 25° angle fixed for honing chisels and plane knives.

Is 25° the standard angle you get from the factory for chisels or will I need more for the chisels I have? (Marples, Craftsman, stanley etc).

How about planes?

[Hoover]

Some wood can be better worked @ 30 degrees or more. The Worksharp 3000 with the new accessory table can go beyond 40 degrees. The 3000 for another $100 offers so much more versatility. The accessory table adds another $70.00, but it will accomplish more.
Hartville Tool has a Woodnet discount which will help bring down the cost. You need to do some checking but the time spent will save you some money.

[poolhound]

25 is the most common angle for planes and chisels. steeper angles e.g. 30are often used for serious mortising as the edge is more robust. Some folks like to use shallower angles for paring work.

a compromise is grinding/honeing to 25 and then adding a secondary or microbevel. I recently got the veritas II guide and have been getting excellent results. It has a setting to add a microbevel a few degrees steeper than the primary. I have been using a combination of stones and scary sharp. I have easily produced an edge that will shave the hairs of your arm.

[mpc]

25° is pretty common; most of my plane irons are 25° as are my Marple chisels. The Craftsman chisels (much older; they were bought for household carpentry, not woodworking) are 35° though.

I've never used/tried the WS2000 but I do have a WS3000 that I think is terrific. I sprung for the extra support table & wide blade holder that attaches to the top of the unit; there is no room for this gizmo on the WS2000. Instead, what I've seen folks do is make a wood platform that surrounds the WS2000 with the top of the platform even with the WS2000's sanding disk... just make a big hole in the platform and you can roll whatever blade holder you want on the platform. The same platform gizmo could be built for the WS3000 of course; probably for less than the 50 bucks the gizmo costs. That 50 bucks though buys a blade holder and angle finder tool as well as the bolt-on platform.

I'm a fan of the WS3000 system with this platform; I think it is worth the extra money over the WS2000 with its limitations. If you think you'll ever get into rehabing old planes, or even building up a collection of new ones, you'll wish you had the WS3000. If I remember correctly, the WS2000 turns a lot faster (approx 3 times as fast) as the WS3000 so it's quicker at sharpening... but also quicker at overheating the tool. Even with the "fan cooling" of the WS3000, I do have to watch the blade temps sometimes. Narrow chisels heat up quickly. They'd really cook with the faster WS2000 setup.

mpc

edit: by the time I finished typing this, this thread went from 0 replies to several, making mine redundant/useless...

[codaman33]

i'll sell you mine, lchien

Lchien, I like my ws3000, but I have recently discovered Japanese water stones. I have make a conscious decision to stick with that. I have everything complete, and I have only used it once. It is a fabulous machine though. I would like $160, and it is all complete. Let me know. I will even deliver it. You can also buy the add on honing jig for it. Let me know.

[LCHIEN]

you have PM here blocked. I sent you an e-mail.

[LCHIEN]

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mpc

edit: by the time I finished typing this, this thread went from 0 replies to several, making mine redundant/useless...

Not useless, thanks for the input.

[leehljp]

If you get a Worksharp 2000 or 3000, buy at least one extra pack of basic sanding disks 80 / 240 or what ever they come in. I went through my first set kinda quick learning not to be too heavy on it. It is fast but when trying to remove a lot of metal due to a deep nick, there is a tendency to push a little harder. It does wear on the pad.

I am on my back up and ordered two more sets - for my daughter to bring over this month.

[SARGE..g-47]

I've been looking at the W2000 Worksharp.
One limit for it is that it only has the 25° angle fixed for honing chisels and plane knives.

Is 25° the standard angle you get from the factory for chisels or will I need more for the chisels I have? (Marples, Craftsman, stanley etc).

How about planes?

Probably something that needs to be pointed out is the W 2000 will only take a blade 1 5/8" wide in the bottom jig. You free-hand anything over 1 5/8" on top meaning you are going to free-hand the majority of plane irons as most are over 1 5/8".

Now.. you can step up to the W 3000 which does the same thing basically but... for the low.. low additional price of $69.95 currently on Amazon... you get a jig that will hold the angle for the free hand on top. But.. it won't fit the W 2000 so if you get that one you go back to "you free-hand" over 1 5/8" iron blades.

So.. if you do chisels only.. you are covered. If you do hand plane irons... you need the W 3000 with the accessory to make it work. Now.. you might ask yourself... why did they just not make both machines to accept up to 3" to begin with? Well... don't look to me for the answer!

My solution is I don't have either.. nor do I want one personally. I have a Veritas Mk II jig I use to get an initial angle on a "new" chisel or iron on scary sharp after flattening the back of the chisel or iron. I have all the chisels and planes I need at this point so.. the Veritas Mk II sits in a drawer.

It would get used if I wanted to increase an angle on a mortise chisel or throw a york pitch angle on a hand-plane. But... it just sits as I do all sharpening after initially setting the angle free-hand without a guide. It's really not difficult at all, IMO. So...

Good luck deciding....

[herb fellows]

I'll just throw in that the customer service from Worksharp is excellent. I've had 2 incidents where I needed info and a part, they responded quickly and efficiently in both instances.

[LCHIEN]

I'll just throw in that the customer service from Worksharp is excellent. I've had 2 incidents where I needed info and a part, they responded quickly and efficiently in both instances.

I understand they're by the same people who make the Drill Doctors.