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  • RayintheUK
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2003
    • 1792
    • Crowborough, East Sussex, United Kingdom.
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #1

    Routers - Out of Interest

    Since I've been involved in woodworking (probably >35 years), plunge routers were the norm in the UK and still are. It's difficult, if not impossible to get a fixed-base machine here, but I can't imagine, having used a plunge router for all those years, both hand-held and inverted in a table, why anyone would want to.

    I suppose that - if you've got a fixed-base machine, you either have to use it inverted, or tilt it into the work, which doesn't sound either safe or practical. The sole reason for this post is to find out how you view things, where fixed-base seems to have been the norm until comparatively recently. TIA!

    Ray.
    82
    Only have a fixed-base router and use it hand-held
    2.44%
    2
    Only have a fixed-base router, use it both hand-held & inverted
    6.10%
    5
    Have a twin-base router, prefer to use the fixed base
    14.63%
    12
    Have a twin-base router, prefer to use the plunge base
    10.98%
    9
    Have both types, but use the fixed router the most
    37.80%
    31
    Have both types, but use the plunge router the most
    20.73%
    17
    Only have and use a plunge router
    7.32%
    6
    Don't have a router
    0.00%
    0
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  • BobSch
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 4385
    • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
    • BT3100

    #2
    I've had a PC690 with both bases for a several years and, I'm ashamed to say, have just started using it. Both hand-held and in the table, I've only used the fixed base. Perhaps it's because I haven't had a need for the plunge base that I haven't even had it out of the case. I'm sure that will change as I start getting into more complex projects.
    Bob

    Bad decisions make good stories.

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    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
      • 15216
      • So. Florida
      • Delta

      #3
      When I firest started using routers, there weren't any with plunge bases. If there were, I didn't know about them. So, all my applications were either hand held or inverted in a table, or set up horizontally.

      Tipping into the work was the norm, and not difficult to do. Some routers have a rack and pinion height adjustment, which took a bit of practice to get used to for a plunge procedure. Others I have required the router body to rotate within the base frame to raise and lower. But as archaic as it seems It entailed learning with what you had.
      .

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      • Tom Slick
        Veteran Member
        • May 2005
        • 2913
        • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
        • sears BT3 clone

        #4
        I use my fixed base in my router table and and mostly plunge for hand routing. I also have a D handle which is great for edge routing larger projects.
        Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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        • Popeye
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 1848
          • Woodbine, Ga
          • Grizzly 1023SL

          #5
          For the most part I don't use a handheld unless there is just no way to make the cut on the table. I think usage probably has more to do with the type routing you normall do. That big honkin Triton you demo is my number one in the table. I have an old Dewalt plunge in a drawer somewhere, I like the feel of it but it only uses 1/4" shank bits andI've all but switched over to 1/2". I've also got a Dewalt fixed base, a Milwaukee body grip, and a Ridgid trim router. The trim router has become my normal handheld. Pat
          Last edited by Popeye; 10-04-2008, 10:47 AM.
          Woodworking is therapy.....some of us need more therapy than others. <ZERO>

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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 22011
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            I'm with popeye, I always look to use the table-mounted, fixed base router first. If a moving wood-solution (router in table) won't cut it then I look to a moving tool (handheld) solution.
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
            BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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            • Mr__Bill
              Veteran Member
              • May 2007
              • 2096
              • Tacoma, WA
              • BT3000

              #7
              Ray, when I got my first router it was from Sears in the early 70's it didn't last as long as leisure suits but got me hooked. Fixed base was all I knew about and the next one, also from Sears, I had a Sears Card, lasted right up to when it walked. I see a real use for the plunge base but my latest router a Milwaukee did not have the plunge base available for it when I made the purchase. That now is on my Christmas list*. Have to admit though that for the most part I use the router in the table. I did discover that I can cut out the rot on my house siding with the trim router and not cut through the tyveck. (sp?)

              *Unlike most kids, my Christmas list I keep to myself and use it to keep track of what I am looking for 'on sale' at Christmas time. Sometimes I even add things for other people.

              Bill, on the Sunny Oregon Coast, 3 days and 4" of rain, fall is starting.

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              • crokett
                The Full Monte
                • Jan 2003
                • 10627
                • Mebane, NC, USA.
                • Ryobi BT3000

                #8
                I use my fixed the most but that is because it is in the table.
                David

                The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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                • Len
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 50
                  • Cary, NC
                  • BT3000

                  #9
                  Fixed base in the table gets used most often. The smaller plunge unit mostly gets used for edge trimming & chamfering of table tops, etc.

                  Len

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                  • poolhound
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 3196
                    • Phoenix, AZ
                    • BT3100

                    #10
                    I have 2 routers. One stays in the table in its fixed base. the other has 3 bases which get used about equally.

                    I tend to use the table more than freehand.
                    Jon

                    Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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                    • John Hunter
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 2034
                      • Lake Station, IN, USA.
                      • BT3000 & BT3100

                      #11
                      I have 6 routers, 1 in a table and one in my BT3100. One is a trim router, 2 are plunge, 4 are fixed. What router I use depends on what I am doing. The 3 1/4 HP Freud Plunge Router is in my router table and gets the most use.
                      John Hunter

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                      • Ed62
                        The Full Monte
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 6021
                        • NW Indiana
                        • BT3K

                        #12
                        I only have a plunge router that somehow found it's way to a router table, where it is used most of the time.

                        Ed
                        Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

                        For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/

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                        • Russianwolf
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3152
                          • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
                          • One of them there Toy saws

                          #13
                          I have two routers, a 3 base combo and a second plunge router. I usually use the fixed base of the combo in the router table. I rarely use the router handheld but when I do it's the plunge router.

                          Couldn't vote as I didn't like the options,
                          Mike
                          Lakota's Dad

                          If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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                          • Sawatzky
                            Established Member
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 359
                            • CA
                            • Ridgid TS3650

                            #14
                            I have a fixed based PC router with an additional fixed base in the router table. That way I can simply use the same motor for freehand or table. I have never used a plunge base.

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                            • bthere
                              Established Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 462
                              • Alpharetta, GA

                              #15
                              Multiple routers here, also. One is the Milwaukee 3.5 HP fixed base that is for the router table. I have an old Sears fixed base router that lives in a small table that I sometimes take with me. I have a multibase Bosch kit that usually is used as a plunge router for handheld work. Lastly, I have a Bosch Colt that is fixed base that I use for edge trimming and such when I don't take the piece to a router table.

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