Wynn Filter Conv. Kit for HF DC

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  • dedaddy
    Established Member
    • Dec 2003
    • 395
    • Dallastown, PA, USA.
    • Jet SuperSaw w/sliding table and jointech fence

    Wynn Filter Conv. Kit for HF DC

    Wynn just added a conversion kit for the HF dust collector. They have two versions. Both include all parts including bags and bolts to complete the conversion. You can see the kits at http://www.wynnenv.com/35A_series_cartridge_kit.htm

    Looks very simple.
    Lee
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    I live in my own little world. That's OK. Everybody there knows me!!
  • LarryG
    The Full Monte
    • May 2004
    • 6693
    • Off The Back
    • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

    #2
    Looks interesting, but ... IIRC the preferred Wynn's filter (or at least the one most people have been using) has 300 sq ft of surface area and both of these have only 100 sq ft. What does that mean? Reduced airflow? More frequent cleaning? Neither, both, other?

    I've got my system up and running and am all set to do the cartridge conversion ... not sure I needed this new complication ... [:0]
    Larry

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    • jhinze
      Forum Newbie
      • Aug 2003
      • 95
      • Sterling Heights, MI, USA.

      #3
      Your right, the prefered or most often used filter has 300 sq/ft of surface area... However, most filter bags (e.g. grizzly .3micron bags) have less than 15sq/ft of surface area... So it's still a large improvement...

      interesting... though.
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      Jim Hinze
      Sterling Heights, MI
      http://www.apfmichigan.com

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      • sscherin
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2003
        • 772
        • Kennewick, WA, USA.

        #4
        This page shows them at 226 st ft but the deminsions are all wrong..


        They also list the 35A100SBOL twice.. I think they have a little web page work to do.

        One thing I don't like is the mounting system they picked..


        Turnbuckles mounted to the inside ring.. getting that filter off for cleanup is going to be a messy job.
        William's Law--
        There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
        cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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        • LarryG
          The Full Monte
          • May 2004
          • 6693
          • Off The Back
          • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

          #5
          quote:Originally posted by sscherin

          This page shows them at 226 st ft..
          http://www.wynnenv.com/cartridge_filters.htm
          Something's wrong somewhere, because the dimensions of the 226 sq ft filter are way off what they should be ... it shows 12.75" diameter, far smaller than the HF's inlet ring.

          I'm not real crazy about that mounting system, either. Making your own donut is a one-time chore but futzing with those turnbuckles will go on forever.
          Larry

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          • bolson
            Established Member
            • Sep 2003
            • 288
            • Charlotte, MI, USA.

            #6
            yes, Rick and I had this same conversation. For $70 shipped and about $5 in hardware and MDF, the donut conversion seems to be the easiest way to go as far as mounting. With my donut set up I can pop the filter off in about 1 minutes and take it outside for a quick cleaning. And with my set up, I only have had to clean the filter once after sawing a whole sheet of MDF into 3/4" lumber stickers (lots of MDF dust that day!)
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            • BobSch
              • Aug 2004
              • 4385
              • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
              • BT3100

              #7
              quote:Originally posted by LarryG

              quote:Originally posted by sscherin

              This page shows them at 226 st ft..
              http://www.wynnenv.com/cartridge_filters.htm
              Something's wrong somewhere, because the dimensions of the 226 sq ft filter are way off what they should be ... it shows 12.75" diameter, far smaller than the HF's inlet ring.

              I'm not real crazy about that mounting system, either. Making your own donut is a one-time chore but futzing with those turnbuckles will go on forever.
              I just talked to Rick at Wynn. Here's the scoop.

              The Spun Bond Polyester filter is 100 sq ft. The 80/20 Blend Paper is 274 sq ft. The outside diameter is more like 17.5, not 12.75.

              I asked him about problems taking the filter off with the turnbuckles and he said not to bother, just hit it with compressed air.

              Now I'm glad I haven't had the chance to put my HD DC together yet. Time to order the filter.
              Bob

              Bad decisions make good stories.

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              • dedaddy
                Established Member
                • Dec 2003
                • 395
                • Dallastown, PA, USA.
                • Jet SuperSaw w/sliding table and jointech fence

                #8
                I emailed Rick also. He is correcting the web page to show the correct specs today or tomorrow. He was somewhat embarrased. Quick response! This firm normally sells to large outfits. We should support someone like this who takes the time for the hobbyist market that is really small potatoes for a company this size. His price for flex hose is amoung the lowest for a very high quality product.
                Lee
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                I live in my own little world. That's OK. Everybody there knows me!!

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                • BobSch
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 4385
                  • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  quote:Originally posted by dedaddy

                  This firm normally sells to large outfits. We should support someone like this who takes the time for the hobbyist market that is really small potatoes for a company this size.
                  **** straight. I'm calling in my order the end of this week. (Something about payday...)
                  Bob

                  Bad decisions make good stories.

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                  • sscherin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 772
                    • Kennewick, WA, USA.

                    #10
                    I'll be ordering one as soon as I can find someone to buy my RAS..
                    William's Law--
                    There is no mechanical problem so difficult that it
                    cannot be solved by brute strength and ignorance.

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                    • JR
                      The Full Monte
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 5633
                      • Eugene, OR
                      • BT3000

                      #11
                      quote:Originally posted by BobSch

                      I asked him about problems taking the filter off with the turnbuckles and he said not to bother, just hit it with compressed air.
                      I'm missing something here. "hit it with compressed air" and do what with the dust? Doesnt' this technique just blow all the dust collected in the filter into the air?

                      JR
                      JR

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                      • LarryG
                        The Full Monte
                        • May 2004
                        • 6693
                        • Off The Back
                        • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

                        #12
                        JR, my interpretation is that he means blow out the dust while the DC is fully assembled and allow the dust to settle into the bottom bag.
                        Larry

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                        • JR
                          The Full Monte
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 5633
                          • Eugene, OR
                          • BT3000

                          #13
                          Aaaahhhh. I've got it now.

                          BTW and FWIW - I bought a few of 4" to 2+" converters at Rockler. The 4" to 2-1/4" fits inside the BT3K port. It also fits OUTSIDE the HF BS DC port.

                          The 4" to 2-1/2" converter fits the outside of my 2-1/2" hose connector from my Rigid shopvac.

                          JR
                          JR

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                          • DaveS
                            • May 2003
                            • 596
                            • Minneapolis,MN

                            #14

                            I just ordered the 9E300BL last week. If I'd known about this, I might have ordered differently. Bummer. I'm a little unclear why the guy wouldn't have at least given me a hint that this was coming. Oh well.

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                            • BobSch
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 4385
                              • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                              • BT3100

                              #15
                              quote:Originally posted by LarryG

                              JR, my interpretation is that he means blow out the dust while the DC is fully assembled and allow the dust to settle into the bottom bag.
                              Yup. Sorry I wasn't very clear on that. Must be Monday or something.
                              Bob

                              Bad decisions make good stories.

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