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  • rcp612
    Established Member
    • May 2005
    • 358
    • Mount Vernon, OH, USA.
    • Bosch 4100-09

    #1

    Ridgid R4330 Planer

    I've asked before about cutterhead locks and have accepted the answers I got to that post. It all started making sense to me.
    Now along comes Ridgid with their new R4330 stating that they have eliminated the need of a cutterhead lock with a 4 post design. I know there are 4 post planers out there already so, what's up? Is this "new" ridgid the answer to my needs? The price is good, and I'm just a bout ready to pull the trigger. Please help me!
    Do like you always do,,,,,,Get what you always get!!
  • ragswl4
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1559
    • Winchester, Ca
    • C-Man 22114

    #2
    Originally posted by rcp612
    I've asked before about cutterhead locks and have accepted the answers I got to that post. It all started making sense to me.
    Now along comes Ridgid with their new R4330 stating that they have eliminated the need of a cutterhead lock with a 4 post design. I know there are 4 post planers out there already so, what's up? Is this "new" ridgid the answer to my needs? The price is good, and I'm just a bout ready to pull the trigger. Please help me!
    What's the return policy? If you can take it home, plane a board, get snipe and return it then its worth the risk.

    Edit: On second thought, unless you are in a hurry I would wait for a few reviews before jumping.
    Last edited by ragswl4; 10-19-2007, 11:26 AM. Reason: Second thought
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    • THyman
      Established Member
      • Feb 2005
      • 315
      • Atlanta, Georgia, USA

      #3
      The only other thing I see as different is the R4330 is a triple head but it does not include a stand. Any reviews out there would be great.
      Last edited by THyman; 10-19-2007, 11:57 AM.
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      • LCHIEN
        Super Moderator
        • Dec 2002
        • 22012
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        most all the thickness planers I see have four posts.
        even with the four posts there's still some play if the head is not "locked" to all four columns.
        I still think the cutterhead lock is needed.

        A "good price" is a sign that they'e cut some corners by eliminating some features.
        I'd be wary.
        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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        • dwlind
          Forum Newbie
          • Apr 2006
          • 15

          #5
          I read on another forum that while other planers do indeed have four posts, those posts are just columns and those planers employ 2 leadscrews (one on each side) to raise and lower the cutter head. The new planer from Ridgid uses 4 leadscrews ( one in each corner ) like the Dewalt planer that gets such glowing reviews. With a leadscrew in each corner the need for the cutter head lock is eliminated, or that's the thinking anyway.

          Doug

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          • sweensdv
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2002
            • 2872
            • WI
            • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

            #6
            The other planer that Ridgid offers consistently receives high marks when it comes to quality so it wouldn't make much sense for them to take any backward steps with this newer model. With the 90 day no questions asked return policy there is very little risk on your part if you pull the trigger on this planer. Go for it!
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            • LCHIEN
              Super Moderator
              • Dec 2002
              • 22012
              • Katy, TX, USA.
              • BT3000 vintage 1999

              #7
              Originally posted by dwlind
              I read on another forum that while other planers do indeed have four posts, those posts are just columns and those planers employ 2 leadscrews (one on each side) to raise and lower the cutter head. The new planer from Ridgid uses 4 leadscrews ( one in each corner ) like the Dewalt planer that gets such glowing reviews. With a leadscrew in each corner the need for the cutter head lock is eliminated, or that's the thinking anyway.

              Doug
              Seems to me that leadscrews have some mechanical backlash. Locking the head takes backplash out o the equation. Even if the snipe were 1/2 the backlash, a 10 mil backlash would lead to a 5 mil snipe which is quite visible when you hold it up to the light!
              Loring in Katy, TX USA
              If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
              BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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              • mpc
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 1012
                • Cypress, CA, USA.
                • BT3000 orig 13amp model

                #8
                When I first read the description of this thing somewhere, my first thought was that Ridgid was trying to copy the key features of the Dewalt DW735 that does so well in reviews. There are mechanical things that can be done to minimize lash on screws & parts riding on them; it's similar to lashless gears (two thin gears side by side, acting as one, with a spring trying to turn them in opposite directions - makes the teeth expand to fully fill whatever they're meshed with, eliminating lash) so Ridgid might have a winner here. One of the Ridgid comments about dual-speeds for the cutter head was that there was no real benefit to the speeds - the resulting surface quality was almost identical. I agree with that on my Dewalt; I've never bothered changing the speeds once I did that test myself.

                I already have the nice Dewalt (a refurb) otherwise I'd be looking seriously at this new Ridgid. Maybe Ridgid can figure out how to make long lasting knives unlike Dewalt...

                mpc
                Last edited by mpc; 10-21-2007, 02:24 AM. Reason: corrected "DW733" to "DW735"

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                • dwlind
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LCHIEN
                  Seems to me that leadscrews have some mechanical backlash. Locking the head takes backplash out o the equation. Even if the snipe were 1/2 the backlash, a 10 mil backlash would lead to a 5 mil snipe which is quite visible when you hold it up to the light!
                  Loring,

                  I agree completely with your assessment. I work quite a bit with motors and lead screws and I know first hand the problems with backlash on those assemblies. That’s why I put the disclaimer in " that's the thinking anyway ". Just because they employ a design used in a very highly regarded planer, doesn't mean their version will be as successful.

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                  • kevincan
                    Established Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 181
                    • Central Illinois
                    • Craftsman 21829

                    #10
                    Has any one seen the replacement blades for this planer at their Borg. Mine has the new planer but the only blades they had are for the older 2 blade model. I tried searching on ridgidparts.com and did not find anything after searching for the part number for the replacement blades.

                    Kevin

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                    • sweensdv
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2872
                      • WI
                      • Baileigh TS-1040P-50

                      #11
                      Originally posted by mpc
                      ........One of the Ridgid comments about dual-speeds for the cutter head was that there was no real benefit to the speeds - the resulting surface quality was almost identical. lt...
                      mpc
                      FWIW, the new Ridgid planer has only one speed.
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                      • gwyneth
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1134
                        • Bayfield Co., WI

                        #12
                        American Woodworker (I think) had a review of planers within the past few months. The article explained that four lift screws achieve the same goal as a cutterhead lock and its list of models itemized both 2/4 screws and locks.

                        Whichever magazine it was, it reviewed two Ridgid models and both got very high marks (and if I'm remembering right, both had either lock or four screws). I'll see if I can find it.
                        Last edited by gwyneth; 10-20-2007, 12:51 AM.

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                        • gwyneth
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1134
                          • Bayfield Co., WI

                          #13
                          I found the magazine. It's the October issue of American Woodworker, and the Ridgid R4330 got the "Editors' Choice" seal for planers that cost less than $400.

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                          • aka4722
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 12
                            • BROOKLYN, NEW YORK

                            #14
                            I cannot find the new features on R4330. Based on the Finewoodworking review, the new model doesn't get the "Author's Choice"

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                            • Nil
                              Forum Newbie
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 49

                              #15
                              Did anyone ever get the links to these reviews of the R4330? I'm stuck deciding between the TP1300LS and the R4330... I don't really need the stand so that isn't much of a consideration. I was just nervous about the removal of the cutterhead lock as it seemed to go back to the Ryobi Ap1300 to AP1301 downgrade...

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