Anybody sell a "paddle" style bump stop switch for TS?

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  • GaryA
    Established Member
    • Dec 2004
    • 365
    • Tampa, FL, USA.

    #1

    Anybody sell a "paddle" style bump stop switch for TS?

    I thought this was either something that the manufacturers included, or something that was easy to find to adapt to your existing table saw. I looked in Woodcraft today, looked on Rockler online...nothing. This would be a similar stop knee switch as I've seen on Sawstop, General and I believe Ridgid. I guess it would be easy enough to make one. Anybody have any ideas?
    Gary
  • LarryG
    The Full Monte
    • May 2004
    • 6693
    • Off The Back
    • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

    #2
    A kick switch, like this, is a fairly common shop-built mod.

    (Note that there's a downloadable PDF file showing a precisely-engineered drawing of how to make it ... )
    Larry

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    • Jeffrey Schronce
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      • Nov 2005
      • 3822
      • York, PA, USA.
      • 22124

      #3
      You don't see a lot of those with with magnetic switchs. I assume you are talking about the Jet TS. I guess you don't see them on magnetic switches since you need to rotate the stop switch to re-engage the switch and you would have to go behind the bump switch.

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      • scorrpio
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        • Dec 2005
        • 1566
        • Wayne, NJ, USA.

        #4
        ebay has a bunch. Look for 'paddle switch'.

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        • Garasaki
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          • Sep 2006
          • 550

          #5
          http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=30083

          Search function is good
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          • LCHIEN
            Super Moderator
            • Dec 2002
            • 21765
            • Katy, TX, USA.
            • BT3000 vintage 1999

            #6
            also
            http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=28751
            Loring in Katy, TX USA
            If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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            • GaryA
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              • Dec 2004
              • 365
              • Tampa, FL, USA.

              #7
              I like this one: http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/pictu...9&NTITEM=B2561

              will it work with my Jet JTAS-10 though?

              Jeffrey- wasn't sure what you meant by magnetic switch. Is there something unique/non-standard on the Jet?
              Gary

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              • Ken Massingale
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2002
                • 3862
                • Liberty, SC, USA.
                • Ridgid TS3650

                #8
                Originally posted by GaryA
                I like this one: http://busybeetools.ca/cgi-bin/pictu...9&NTITEM=B2561

                will it work with my Jet JTAS-10 though?

                Jeffrey- wasn't sure what you meant by magnetic switch. Is there something unique/non-standard on the Jet?
                Gary,
                The Jet has a magnetic starter, it is not a simple toggle type switch. The Start button is a momentary contact that energizes a coil that closes a small contactor (the contactor has an auxillary contact that keeps the coil energized until the Stop button breaks the circuit to the coil), that energizes the motor. I haven't seen a paddle type switch for 220 volt starters, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
                Last edited by Ken Massingale; 05-25-2007, 06:21 AM. Reason: Clarity

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                • eezlock
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 997
                  • Charlotte,N.C.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Ts switch

                  Originally posted by GaryA
                  I thought this was either something that the manufacturers included, or something that was easy to find to adapt to your existing table saw. I looked in Woodcraft today, looked on Rockler online...nothing. This would be a similar stop knee switch as I've seen on Sawstop, General and I believe Ridgid. I guess it would be easy enough to make one. Anybody have any ideas?
                  I understand that Sears now has one available for tablesaws, don't know the part number, but have seen posts about it. It is the replacement one for their
                  zipcode saws.

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                  • LinuxRandal
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 4890
                    • Independence, MO, USA.
                    • bt3100

                    #10
                    Part number OR91712

                    one thread
                    http://www.bt3central.com/showthread.php?t=30083

                    As for the switch, you switch the motor for 220, and it is the same switch. (as per a discussion on it, on it's original saw over at woodnet).
                    She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                    • Jeffrey Schronce
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 3822
                      • York, PA, USA.
                      • 22124

                      #11
                      Ken confirms my thinking that paddle switch for magnetic starter is not common and possibly may not exist. Gary, none of the ones shown thus far would work. Magnetic starter is considered a safety feature that prevents the saw from starting back up if you loose power and it is later restored. The magnetic starter is also a little safer as far as preventing children from starting the machine or accidental switch on. The "Stop" or "off" button must be turn about 1/8th of a full rotation which causes it to pop out a bit. You can then turn the saw on. A lot of stop switches on the magnetic deals are larger than average and stick out quite a bit and are easy to hit (ie not recessed inside the switch or anything). Looking at the photos of the Jet, that does not seem to be the case. The stop button looks to be pretty much flush with the control box.

                      If you are really concerned about this issue I would simply build an emergency bump for the saw. Couple hinges attached to rail with a simple wooden frame that has a small peg that sits on the stop switch. Pushing in on the frame would cause the saw to shut off.

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                      • Ken Massingale
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 3862
                        • Liberty, SC, USA.
                        • Ridgid TS3650

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jeffrey Schronce
                        Ken confirms my thinking that paddle switch for magnetic starter is not common and possibly may not exist. Gary, none of the ones shown thus far would work. Magnetic starter is considered a safety feature that prevents the saw from starting back up if you loose power and it is later restored. The magnetic starter is also a little safer as far as preventing children from starting the machine or accidental switch on. The "Stop" or "off" button must be turn about 1/8th of a full rotation which causes it to pop out a bit. You can then turn the saw on. A lot of stop switches on the magnetic deals are larger than average and stick out quite a bit and are easy to hit (ie not recessed inside the switch or anything). Looking at the photos of the Jet, that does not seem to be the case. The stop button looks to be pretty much flush with the control box.

                        If you are really concerned about this issue I would simply build an emergency bump for the saw. Couple hinges attached to rail with a simple wooden frame that has a small peg that sits on the stop switch. Pushing in on the frame would cause the saw to shut off.
                        Another option is a standard mushroom Emergency Stop switch wired in series with the saw's Stop button. I have a magnetic starter on my Ridgid due to the momentary loss of power issue Jeff mentioned. I haven't seen a need to add any other stop method. After using the saw a little, quickly locating the stop button become second nature.

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                        • GaryA
                          Established Member
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 365
                          • Tampa, FL, USA.

                          #13
                          Good info guys...thanks...I'll just build a simple one...
                          Gary

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                          • Jeffrey Schronce
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                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3822
                            • York, PA, USA.
                            • 22124

                            #14
                            BTW, the perfec paint match for the Jet TS is Krylon Ivory Gloss. It is dead on.

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