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  • Sawatzky
    Established Member
    • Apr 2005
    • 359
    • CA
    • Ridgid TS3650

    #1

    HF jointer problem

    I have the HF 6 inch green jointer. Lately I have noticed that when I push the start button there is a few seconds of delay before the motor kicks on. Sometimes it jumps and then stops and then gets going again. This doesn't happen every time I turn in it on, more like every 3rd time I turn it on. Any ideas whats wrong?
  • scoly
    Established Member
    • Jun 2003
    • 395
    • Lubbock, Texas, USA.

    #2
    If mine I'd take the switch apart and blow it out. Sounds like it might be dirty.
    hth
    Steve
    It\'s the combined experience of the members on this board that make it such a great place.

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    • messmaker
      Veteran Member
      • May 2004
      • 1495
      • RICHMOND, KY, USA.
      • Ridgid 2424

      #3
      A harbor Freight switch is not the strength of several of their WW machines. The good thing is, a replacement is cheap.
      spellling champion Lexington region 1982

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      • Sawatzky
        Established Member
        • Apr 2005
        • 359
        • CA
        • Ridgid TS3650

        #4
        can I use a regular light switch? I think it would be easy to rig that up. The jointer is always unplugged unless in use.

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        • Pappy
          The Full Monte
          • Dec 2002
          • 10481
          • San Marcos, TX, USA.
          • BT3000 (x2)

          #5
          When I bought my Rockwell it was set up with a light switch. No reason it won't work.
          Don, aka Pappy,

          Wise men talk because they have something to say,
          Fools because they have to say something.
          Plato

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          • Slik Geek
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 708
            • Lake County, Illinois
            • Ryobi BT-3000

            #6
            I used a regular light switch on my first old Craftsman tablesaw. It works, but the switch was a regular maintenance item. Light switches are manufactured to be inexpensive, and aren't intended to switch inductive loads, so this isn't surprising. I never had the switch fail shorted (on), so I don't believe that there is a safety issue.

            It would be advisable to have a spare switch on hand in the event you are in the middle of a project when you have a failure.

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            • LarryG
              The Full Monte
              • May 2004
              • 6693
              • Off The Back
              • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

              #7
              Instead of a garden-variety 69 cent light switch, which as Slik Geek says will fail in short order, get a 20A double-pole switch suitable for motor loads, like this one.

              The two sets of poles are intended for switching both legs of a 240V circuit. If your jointer's motor is 120V, just use one set of terminals.

              EDIT: Had the wrong link pasted in. Fixed now.
              Last edited by LarryG; 04-12-2007, 07:30 AM.
              Larry

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              • LCHIEN
                Super Moderator
                • Dec 2002
                • 22017
                • Katy, TX, USA.
                • BT3000 vintage 1999

                #8
                I'm going to go a different tack. Maybe you need to check the centrifugal switch that connects and disconnects the starting capacitor.
                If the cap is not thrown across one of the windings when the motor is started, it may start erratically, slowly, possibly even turn the wrong way.
                Some of the other HF tools' motors have had trouble with the centrifugal switch in the past, I think the 2HP DC.

                OTOH, it could just be a bad power switch. you could try leaving the power switch in the on position and just plugging and unplugging the cord a couple of times seeing if it behaves better. If its stil erratic it might not be the power switch.
                Loring in Katy, TX USA
                If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                • messmaker
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2004
                  • 1495
                  • RICHMOND, KY, USA.
                  • Ridgid 2424

                  #9
                  I quick fix is to leave it in the on position and plug it into a power strip and use the switch on it. It may not last forever but it takes 10 seconds and cost less than $5.
                  spellling champion Lexington region 1982

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                  • scmhogg
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1839
                    • Simi Valley, CA, USA.
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    Loring,

                    What happens when a dust collector's motor runs backward?? I started laughing just thinking about it.

                    Steve
                    I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong. Bertrand Russell

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                    • Sawatzky
                      Established Member
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 359
                      • CA
                      • Ridgid TS3650

                      #11
                      I took the switch apart and one of the connecting points had actuallu melted some of the plastice in the switch. Luckily the switch is reversible so it works fine now. I gues I'll have to keep an eye on it and upgrade the switch at some point. I am just glad it wasn't the motor.

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                      • Duff
                        Established Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 164
                        • San Antonio, TX
                        • Enco 12" RT

                        #12
                        Is it this :

                        Jointer?

                        About to get one myself cheap and wondered what you thought of it.

                        Thank you.

                        Ward
                        Enco 12" RT table saw(with router table currently added to right wing), Central Machinary 6" jointer, Delta 16" (17-900) drill press, Ridgid 14" bandsaw, Jet bench top Mortising machine, Porter Cable 6901 series routers (2) and a wide variety of Ryobi 18v tools.

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                        • RHunter
                          Established Member
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 160
                          • Mechanicsville, VA, USA.
                          • BT3100

                          #13
                          I have that jointer. I bought it about 2yrs ago. It's nothing spectactular. It works. It REALLY beats not having one.

                          The OEM blades are rather soft- and I've used the crap out of them, so I replaced them with a set from Global Machinery. I changed the belt to a Link Belt, and mounted it on an HTC2000 mobile base.

                          I am in the process of making these changes and "tuning" it up, so I am excited about how much better it can be.

                          Would I get rid of it sight unseen, no. Even with the recent additions it's still cheaper than the Giz 6". Would I like a bigger/better jointer- no question. I would love a new 8" Grizzly or 8" Yorkie. But this being a hobby and being on a budget- the HF works for me.

                          Hope this helps!
                          "You should give blood on a regular basis.."
                          "Why I do of course, I'm a woodworker..."

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                          • Sawatzky
                            Established Member
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 359
                            • CA
                            • Ridgid TS3650

                            #14
                            That is the one I have and I am happy with it (besides the switch, though!). Anyway, once it is tuned up and the blades are sharp it does a decent job. It joints boards and makes them straight, which is what it is supposed to do. It is no Jet or Powermatic, but for the little I actually use it, it works great. If I had to joint every board I used that may be a different story, but I buy lumber with a straight edge. I only use the jointer for really bad edges or cups in a board.

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