The Cheerios contest?

[LCHIEN]

I think this tread will end up giving the Song Game a run for it's money. It must be a long cold winter with no shop time. But I do enjoy reading about this contest. Keep it up, can't wait for the results and the winner. Does the winner get the Thong?

Tom

You wish. I'm afraid the thong is lost in a place where thongs go that no wants to follow, if you catch my drift. Think deep dark crevices...

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I think this tread will end up giving the Song Game a run for it's money. It must be a long cold winter with no shop time. But I do enjoy reading about this contest. Keep it up, can't wait for the results and the winner. Does the winner get the Thong?

Tom

Well, I intended my original post to be somewhat humerous, but not entirely a joke. Boy, are you guys in a mood!

I haven't had a chance to test my own vac yet. As far as I can tell, only one person has posted their results. I spent the entire evening getting my cable modem working again. I'll do my Cheerio test in the morning.

I picked the Cheerio because it should provide a somewhat universal size to weight and shape ratio.

So, while the test isn't entirely scientific, I think it does have some value and would provide some useful information for people struggling with the question of whether a dust collector would vastly outperform a shop vac on a 2.25" port.

I shoulda picked something everyone already has around. As it was I had to pickup a box of Cheerios to use for the test.

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Okay, had a little time this morning and a working Internet connection. Picture below is how I tested. I use a Shop-Vac brand vac with HEPA filter, filter bags, with a mini separator and 3" network of piping to my four machines with four plastic blast gates.

I was able to pull approx. 1-3/4" in my horizontal pull test with the hose that normally connects to the table saw. When I bypassed my "network" with a 24" hose connected directly to the Shop-Vac, the distance increased by approx. 1/8". In both of these instances I was able to lift (vertical test) a Cheerio approx. 1".

The results for the 1" Porter Cable ROS hose (approx. 7-1/2' long) and the Fein 1-1/2" hose (maybe 13' long) did not vary whether they were directly connected to the Shop-Vac or used through the network: horizonal distance was approx. 1-1/4" with either of these two hoses. And lift (vertical test) for both was approx. 7/8".

I like testing with food. Next time I will dream up a test that uses M&M's, though.

It will be interesting to see if any users w/ dust collectors perform the same test. I expect radically better results w/ a dust collector, but I donno for sure.

[siliconbauhaus]

I'm looking forward to the results of this.

I'm going to hgo the shop vac route in the garage myself as I dont have the space or the $$ for a DC. I need to look into cyclone cans and or building one.

[ragswl4]

HF DC test results

I tried the test this morning with my HF DC and standard bags. I didn't have any cheerios so I used a 1/4" stainless nut (figured I could adjust the results based on the difference in weight). At 1.365789543" the DC sucked up the nut, but unfortunately (as someone warned during this discussion), the nut went flying through the standard bag and now I have a broken windshield on my 2007 Porsche Carrera Turbo II and there's a 1/4" hole in my garage door.

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I tried the test this morning with my HF DC and standard bags. I didn't have any cheerios so I used a 1/4" stainless nut (figured I could adjust the results based on the difference in weight). At 1.365789543" the DC sucked up the nut, but unfortunately (as someone warned during this discussion), the nut went flying through the standard bag and now I have a broken windshield on my 2007 Porsche Carrera Turbo II and there's a 1/4" hole in my garage door.

I'm sorry, your test would have been disqualified no matter what for the following reason(s): (1) You have a Porsche Carrera Turbo II.

[TB Roye]

Why would anyone with a Porsche Carrera Turbo II have a HF Dust collector?


Tom

[TheRic]

Why would anyone with a Porsche Carrera Turbo II have a HF Dust collector?
Tom

Bi-polar with $$

[TB Roye]

NO! PAPA, DO IT THIS WAY!


Tom

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Cheerio results on SMC. . . . .
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...hlight=Cheerio

When it warms up to above freezing I may test this on my cyclone. The only thing I know is that it moves too much air to be out there in sub 20 weather!

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Cheerio results on SMC. . . . .
http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthre...hlight=Cheerio

When it warms up to above freezing I may test this on my cyclone. The only thing I know is that it moves too much air to be out there in sub 20 weather!

Yeah, I posted this on SMC, too. Couldn't help myself. It is a win-win posting: (1) People that take is seriously provide some worthwhile data. (2) People that don't take it seriously have a lot of fun with silly replys.

You gotta admit, some of the results are pretty interesting. For example, it would seem that putting the 4" to 2.25" reducer at the end of the line works substantially better than having any length of 2.25" hose after the reducer. Someone had mentioned that having a length of 2.25" hose may help "focus" the air stream (and it may). But, it doesn't help pickup the Cheerio.

[Jeffrey Schronce]

Yeah, I posted this on SMC, too. Couldn't help myself. It is a win-win posting: (1) People that take is seriously provide some worthwhile data. (2) People that don't take it seriously have a lot of fun with silly replys.

You gotta admit, some of the results are pretty interesting. For example, it would seem that putting the 4" to 2.25" reducer at the end of the line works substantially better than having any length of 2.25" hose after the reducer. Someone had mentioned that having a length of 2.25" hose may help "focus" the air stream (and it may). But, it doesn't help pickup the Cheerio.

Ya, I thought you were the poster. Who else could come up with such an idea!?!? LOL! It is a pretty interesting project and certainly is getting a good number of laughs as well. First time in DC thread history!

[Wood_workur]

I might do this if I remember and if it ever gets about the freezing point of alcohol...

[jonathan55]

Honey Nut or regular?