BT3* pawls?

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  • Ed62
    The Full Monte
    • Oct 2006
    • 6022
    • NW Indiana
    • BT3K

    BT3* pawls?

    I was just wondering how many of us use the pawls on the BT3*. I took mine off a long time ago because of scratches to the workpiece. I know they were put there to protect me, but I'm pretty careful when using a table saw (other than taking them off). What about you? Do you use them?

    Ed
    Do you know about kickback? Ray has a good writeup here... https://www.sawdustzone.org/articles...mare-explained

    For a kickback demonstration video http://www.metacafe.com/watch/910584...demonstration/
  • linear
    Senior Member
    • May 2004
    • 612
    • DeSoto, KS, USA.
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #2
    Gone in 60 seconds...
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    • jackellis
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2003
      • 2638
      • Tahoe City, CA, USA.
      • BT3100

      #3
      Mine are still on, but filed down so they don't scratch. At some point I'm planning on replacing the stock guard with a Shark Guard, but I won't be buying pawls to go with it.

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      • crokett
        The Full Monte
        • Jan 2003
        • 10627
        • Mebane, NC, USA.
        • Ryobi BT3000

        #4
        Mine are long gone. Actually I took a look around the shop for them recently and the guard and can't find it. I think I lost it when I moved - some smallish items didn't make it.
        David

        The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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        • Black wallnut
          cycling to health
          • Jan 2003
          • 4715
          • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
          • BT3k 1999

          #5
          Early on my guard was removed partly due to the pawls and I went guardless for years! Then one day I had a kickback, Story here, and soon cut down my factory riving knife. I used that alone until i purchased a Shark.

          Others not so willing to forgo safety devices have found several ways to mitigate the damage the pawls cause to their work pieces. Thick tape, dulling, or even removal of the springs have worked for others. IMHO each person needs to determine the level of risk they are willing to accept and live with it. I strongly recommend at minimum the use of a cut down riving knife; ideally the use of a shark guard.
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          • jhart
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2004
            • 1715
            • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            After maring a few workpieces, I put some liquid tape in the ends. That helped. Completely removed them when I got my "Shark". Don't miss them.
            Joe
            "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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            • LarryG
              The Full Monte
              • May 2004
              • 6693
              • Off The Back
              • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

              #7
              Mine were never on the saw. Ditto for the guard.
              Larry

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              • eezlock
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 997
                • Charlotte,N.C.
                • BT3100

                #8
                Pawls.....

                After a few times of using it.....they had go. then stock guard was thrown
                aside, now it is Lee's sharkguard/riving knife all the way! eezlock

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                • LCHIEN
                  Internet Fact Checker
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 20968
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  Shark Guard now.
                  Hated those pawls.
                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • HarmsWay
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 878
                    • Victoria, BC
                    • BT3000

                    #10
                    I stopped using the stock guard because of the pawls. For me they were creating more problems than they were potentially saving. I was glad to finally get a Shark. In my opinion, the riving knife is the best protection against kickbacks. The pawls added a little to that. Another way to prevent kickbacks is to use feather boards (top and/or side).

                    Bob

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                    • sacherjj
                      Not Your Average Joe
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 813
                      • Indianapolis, IN, USA.
                      • BT3100-1

                      #11
                      I removed the guard because of the pawls. Then I decided that my safety was worth it and bough a Shark guard. I love it. Just wish I could use a 10" dado with it on the BT, so I wouldn't have to remove it for that.
                      Joe Sacher

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                      • Kristofor
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1331
                        • Twin Cities, MN
                        • Jet JTAS10 Cabinet Saw

                        #12
                        I have a Shark Guard now, but the pawls are the only part on any of the power tools I own that have ever made me bleed. The second time was the last time.

                        Kristofor.

                        PS I thought we learned in a previous thread on the subject that the internal Ryobi name for the part was pointy ninja knives or something like that.

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                        • ejs1097
                          Established Member
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 486
                          • Pittsburgh, PA, USA.

                          #13
                          Mine are still on. I haven't noticed any wood scratches or other problems with them so I haven't found the need to take them off yet. the only complaint I have is when ripping thin strips on left side of the blade and getting them hung up in the pawls.
                          Eric
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                          • scorrpio
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1566
                            • Wayne, NJ, USA.

                            #14
                            Mine are still on the blade guard, but since I made a riving knife, I haven't used the stock guard...

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                            • kevin85281
                              Forum Newbie
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 36
                              • Tempe, AZ, USA.

                              #15
                              Mine are still on after a year but the with my finishing skill the scratches are probably an improvement.
                              If I'd known it was harmless I'd have killed it myself.

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