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I have a new HF Framing nailer and I need your help about what size nails to shoot. When framing a wall I plan to shoot 3 1/2" nails though the baseplate/top plate and into the vertical stud. But why size nails to you use to join two pieces of 2x material on the flat side? 2 1/2" or 3" nails? Will 3" nails be overkill and blowout the other side?
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Yeah they will. You're starting with a 3" combo.
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Last edited by LCHIEN; 11-22-2006, 11:15 PM.
Loring in Katy, TX USA
If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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better explaination
I must not have explained myself very well. I know Loring is not suggesting I frame walls of 2x4 with glue and brads. I am framing some walls for a closet and bathroom using standard 2x4. I know at some point I am going to be forced to join two pieces of 2x4 throught the small dimensions. Meaning 1 1/2" against 1 1/2", for a total of 3". What is the standard framing practice in this situation? Previously I have only framed using a hammer and 10d, 12d etc. So do I shoot 3" nails and possibly have the tip sticking out the back? This would have the most nail in the wood. Not quite the 2/3 rule, but more than a 2 1/2" nail. Framers may not handle this situation a lot and might just shoot 3 1/2 all the time. But is has to happen. In my case I know I have to tie some rafters together with 2x4 to form the ceiling of the space I am working on. The rafters 2x4 already, so I don't get a choice what I am nailing into.Comment
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In my post I answered your question. You asked if a 3" nail was too much for two 2x4's flat. Two 2x4's equal 3". That's a 3" combo, which is short for combination, not a take out burger. Use a 2 1/2".
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BOCA (Florida) which is different then the rest of the USA states that for 2x4 nailed on the flat to another one that a 2.5" is required minimally
To me that means you COULD shoot a 3" on an angle (which is what we do when we shoot with a gun) to insure that it doesn't punch through
It goes further to talk about cement or glue coating but that wasn't asked
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The little framing I did was all 3" nails. For 2x flat I just shot on an angle.Comment
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I don't switch nails while framing. The only switch I make is to 8d galv ringshanks for sheathing. If you are framing a wall that is going to be enclosed on both sides, who is going to notice a few nails that poked through?Comment
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Any more experience?
"I don't switch nails while framing. "
Mike, You don't switch. Does that you mean you use 3" nails everywhere? What about through the base plate in to a vertical stud? Shouldn't I use 3 1/2"? Speed is not the issue here. So I don't mind taking the time to switch. I am about to buy a couple of boxes of nails and I want to know the sizes I am going to need most. And you are right, the places where a 3" nail will poke through, will be covered by drywall. - KevinComment
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We only use 3" except sheathing and roofing (and of course that is a different gun). We even use 3" in sheathing if we are too lazy to swap the sticks or the guns
We use 2" for sheathing and 3" for everything else
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