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  • LinuxRandal
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2005
    • 4890
    • Independence, MO, USA.
    • bt3100

    #1

    request another recommendation

    Dial or Digital calipers, and brand. (I am buying two, one for me, and one for my father (hence possibility of digital, due to older eyes).

    TIA
    She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.
  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 22050
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Originally posted by LinuxRandal
    Dial or Digital calipers, and brand. (I am buying two, one for me, and one for my father (hence possibility of digital, due to older eyes).

    TIA
    I can find nothing wrong with the HF 6" digital calipers usually on sale for $15.99 - I own two of them and I have also used several $160 Mitutoyo and Fowler models that are really no better in my opinion.

    Fit and finish are excellent, numbers are large and easy to read, english/metric, auto power off and every measurement agrees with the expensive calipers and the other ones I have (yeah I have two others, too.)

    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=47257
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 08-10-2006, 10:49 PM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
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    • maxparot
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2004
      • 1421
      • Mesa, Arizona, USA.
      • BT3100 w/ wide table kit

      #3
      Originally posted by LCHIEN
      I can find nothing wrong with the HF 6" digital calipers usually on sale for $15.99
      I have 1 in my tool box and have also used my fair share of the expensive name brands
      Opinions are like gas;
      I don't mind hearing it, but keep it to yourself if it stinks.

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      • drumpriest
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2004
        • 3338
        • Pittsburgh, Pa, USA.
        • Powermatic PM 2000

        #4
        I have a set of dial, but I got them CHEAP. I would recommend digital, much easier to read. And get used to this simple math.

        5.12345 inches is.....
        in 32nds
        5 inches + (0.12345 * 32) ~= 4/32
        in 16ths
        5 inches + (0.12345 * 16) ~= 2/16
        in 8ths
        5 inches + (0.12345 * 8) ~= 1/8

        If you do the math, you'll see what I mean. Just mult the decimal by the divisions that you want to approximate, and you'll get there.
        Keith Z. Leonard
        Go Steelers!

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        • AndyF
          Forum Newbie
          • Aug 2003
          • 56
          • Victoria, Texas, USA.

          #5
          digital display with fractions

          It's not out yet, but Wixey should be releasing a digital caliper with fractional display, $49.99, some day.


          From Wixey's web site http://www.wixey.com/:
          The fractions work in a unique but highly accurate manner. The fractions will only display when the decimal reading is within + or - .002" of the fractions decimal equivalent. For example, if the display is reading .740" it will not display the 3/4" ( .750" equivalent) until after the readout passes .745". Internally the readout is actually measuring in .001" increments so that the 3/4" does not turn on until .748" and turns off again at .752" This gives your fraction readings a very high level of accuracy.
          Resolution:
          Decimal = .001 in.
          Fraction = 1/32 in.
          Metric = .01 mm
          Accuracy:
          Decimal = +/- .0005 in.
          Fraction = +/- 1/1000 in.
          Metric = +/- .005 mm

          Andy
          Last edited by AndyF; 08-11-2006, 06:43 AM.

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          • Bruce Cohen
            Veteran Member
            • May 2003
            • 2698
            • Nanuet, NY, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            I love it, something else to buy and piss off my wife.

            Bruce
            "Western civilization didn't make all men equal,
            Samuel Colt did"

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            • Tom Miller
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2003
              • 2507
              • Twin Cities, MN
              • BT3000 - Cuttin' it old school

              #7
              Originally posted by Bruce Cohen
              I love it, something else to buy and piss off my wife.
              Was there ever a shortage?!

              Regards,
              Tom

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              • LinuxRandal
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2005
                • 4890
                • Independence, MO, USA.
                • bt3100

                #8
                Update

                Thanks all!

                I went to HF today to pick them up, and above them was item 93430, Cen-tech, 6" large lcd digital caliper. (sale $15.99). No extra battery, but the extra size offset that for the old man. On the other side, it says it has a computer interface port, but says nothing else about that. I have sent off a querry about what type of cable or wiring diagram for it, as it's the size, but NOT a mini-usb.
                She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                • eezlock
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 997
                  • Charlotte,N.C.
                  • BT3100

                  #9
                  Calipers

                  Originally posted by LinuxRandal
                  Dial or Digital calipers, and brand. (I am buying two, one for me, and one for my father (hence possibility of digital, due to older eyes).

                  TIA
                  I saw one in a woodworking magazine the other day that would be worth considering. It has dual scales..(1) scale is fractional and (2) scale is measured in 1000ths ( normal scale for calipers). I think it was made by General the people who make all kinds of measuring tools, protractors,
                  depth guages, etc. HD carries this line of tools and they are very good quality
                  and not too pricey. eezlock

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                  • LCHIEN
                    Super Moderator
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 22050
                    • Katy, TX, USA.
                    • BT3000 vintage 1999

                    #10
                    Serial port on calipers.

                    Originally posted by LinuxRandal
                    Thanks all!

                    I went to HF today to pick them up, and above them was item 93430, Cen-tech, 6" large lcd digital caliper. (sale $15.99). No extra battery, but the extra size offset that for the old man. On the other side, it says it has a computer interface port, but says nothing else about that. I have sent off a querry about what type of cable or wiring diagram for it, as it's the size, but NOT a mini-usb.
                    Sure it wasn't 93940?
                    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=93940

                    The computer interface port on most of these has been for some years (long before USB became popular) a simple serial port. The port on the other HF calipers has been under the little cover directly above the battery compartment. I can't seem to locate the specs for it anywhere, but I recall it was RS232-like and tranmsitted data
                    Not even sure what the connector is for that port, looks like 4-contacts on mine.

                    P.S. OK I found this searching on the internet:
                    6) Data Output and Processing

                    At present, most digital calipers from China have a data port (SPC) for
                    data output. The port can be seen by removing a small cap on the slider
                    (readout head) and can be connected with a PC or a printer for data
                    processing or for the printing of analytical charts of the measured
                    figures; via a special cable. The data port is usually termed an adaptor.

                    Interface working method: Synchronous serial.

                    Data: Binary code, 24 bits. Each datum will be transferred twice. The cycle
                    is 300ms (20ms in fast reading state). Transmitting time: 0.5ms.

                    Four wires (from left to right): Negative power(-), Clock pulse CP, Data D,
                    Positive Power(+).

                    Pulse range of data: Level ≤0.2V, Level ≥1.3V

                    Clock Pulse CP: 90 KHz, effective for high electrical level.
                    still doesn't say much about a connector. Apparently from that and a diagram I found in the manual for one of my calipers, you need a interface circuit to convert to a PC serial interface.

                    Here's a more advanced specification:
                    http://www.shumatech.com/support/chinese_scales.htm


                    ...going to be a lot of work to convert those outputs to something usable.


                    PPS: Here's a project from a guy who solved it all -

                    http://www.pcmx.net/gauge/
                    how to and what connector to mount to the Caliper.
                    A PCB and circuit to convert the synchronous binary to RS232 ASCII
                    A PC program to read the COM port and display the results.
                    The PC actually powers the interface and the calipers.
                    Last edited by LCHIEN; 08-12-2006, 11:22 PM.
                    Loring in Katy, TX USA
                    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                    • LinuxRandal
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 4890
                      • Independence, MO, USA.
                      • bt3100

                      #11
                      First, yes typo, that's the one.

                      Second, wow, that is more info then I figured I'd find, thanks Loring.
                      She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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                      • Stick
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 872
                        • Grand Rapids, MB, Canada.
                        • BT3100

                        #12
                        I'll go with the concensus here. I have Mitutoyo digital as well as metric and decimal inch verniers and dials at work, and even a set that reads in 1/128 inch. yeah, as a millwright, I deal with all 3 all the time. At home I use the cheapo digitals, but still have metric and decimal inch verniers there as well. My only complaint with digitals is in an unheated shop, battery life is so short as to be almost non-existent. My shops are wood heated only when I'm actually working in them, so I seldom use my digitals in the winter months. as a result. For rough measurements, the plastic verniers work good and are cheap enough you don't care if you misplace them. Here in Canada, they usually come in fractional inch and metric scales on one. Cost maybe 2 bucks. You can probably get them for about 50 cents in the US.

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                        • LinuxRandal
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 4890
                          • Independence, MO, USA.
                          • bt3100

                          #13
                          Here all the ones I see for cheap are straight vernon calipers (no dial or gauge). I have several of those, but never could read as accurate as I have needed. Example of my use, to find out if the bloody miter slot is the standard .755, or the Craftsman size of .750. Never did see an answer to that one, and it always bothered me when I found bargins, that I couldn't tell wether they were for me (UHMW sliders for the slots).
                          She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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