Dust collector quick release?

[Nick Keenan]

I'm in the process of setting up my shop. It's a "process" in the sense that the Middle East Peace Process is a "process" -- it goes on forever, and it seems like nothing ever changes. But I digress.

My shop is too small to have fixed stations for the tools. What I am doing is putting all of the tools on wheels, and I roll them out into the middle when I need them. I have three 6" dust collector ports strategically placed, and when I roll something out I hook it to the nearest port. I'm trying to find a better way to hook up the hose. If I just push it on, it falls off, invariably at a bad time. If I tape it on, it's a mess when I go to take it off. If I use a hose clamp it stays on and comes off, but it's a pain to loosen and tighten.

Any bright ideas?

Thanks,
Nick

[Tom Miller]

I use 4" S&D PVC, and I find the friction fit onto 4" dust ports to work very well. I put a ~4" long piece of PVC into the ends of a 4" flex hose (snug fit, need to remove wire coil at the hose ends) for quick-connecting.

Regards,
Tom

[LarryG]

Man, I hear you about that "process" stuff. Just this weekend I finally got all the re-wiring done in my shop and thought I was ready to start devoting serious time to making sawdust. Then I remembered that I still have to build a work table, and finish building my lumber racks. But I, too, digress.

I bought some 4" quick-disconnect fittings at Woodcraft (they were the only thing I could afford at Woodcraft) that have raised ridges on the hose side so they'll thread into the hose end, and a slightly tapered outlet on the machine side that mates up nice and snug with the slightly tapered dust ports on my tools. Item no. 140259 but there's no 6" version listed. Might be worth some searching at other vendors because in the 4" size, these work extremely well.

Failing that ... I think what usually happens is that the weight of the hose pulls the connector off the port; the friction fit is not quite good enough and needs a little help. One idea that comes to mind would be to get some of that sticky-backed hook-and-loop material (i.e., Velcro) and stick one piece of "hook" on the hose, another piece of "hook" on the machine, and then bridge the gap with a strip of "loop" material.

Another possibility might be to adapt a t-handle or star knob to the screw on the hose clamp so you can just give it a couple of quick turns with your hand and not have to fool with a screwdriver. I have found that it takes very little change in the clamp's tightness to make the difference between a hose that stays put and a hose that slides right off.

[tfischer]

My dust collector came with a really cool spring-actuated clamp for the output side. I'd really like to have some of these in a 4" version (the DC one is 6") -- they'd work perfectly for what you're talking about.

I could take a pic of it if anyone is interested in what I'm talking about...

-Tim

[Thom2]

http://www.idealclamp.com/index.cfm?location_id=2983


Ussually available at HD truck parts suppliers and some truck stops, the heavier diesels use these quite a bit to hold the air intake hoses on.


***edit***

I knew I saw these somewhere but couldn't find an example before... quick-release t-bolt clamps

http://www.vossind.com/PDF%20Web%20Files/T-btpge2.pdf

I'm not sure where these can be bought, but they look like 'just the ticket'

***edit**


Thom
HTH

[Lonnie in Orlando]

Nick:

I use 4" inside diameter white plastic sewer & drain pipe as a press-fit quick connect, too. It's fast, cheap, and tight. Since most dust ports on tools are 4" outside diameter, this will work on your system if you reduce your 6" port or 6" hose to 4" for the connection to the tool.

I permanently clamp a 4" splice (JW1019, or similar) to my DC hose. The splice is 4" OD on both ends.
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Then I cut a 3-1/2" long piece of S&D pipe (4"ID) and slip over the splice, or slip over the DC port on each tool. Most DC ports are 4"OD.

Just press-fit to make the connection. I have never had a hose pull out of the port on a tool. In fact, you may find the fit too tight. If so, sand the inside of the S&D to make it a little larger diam.

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You can permanently attach the piece of S&D to the splice or to the tool dust port. I attach mine to the tool dust port because I made custom dust ports for my BT3 and BS with S&D.

Here is a similar thread on WoodNet.
http://www.forums.woodnet.net/ubbthr...5&o=&fpart=all

- Lonnie

[LarryG]

Lonnie, the 4" quick-disconnect fittings I got at Woodcraft will do all that you're doing in one simple piece, for about 50 cents more than the double-ended splice connector you're using costs. The female end is sized to fit a typical 4" dust port perfectly, and since the male end is threaded and "screws" into the hose, you don't even need a clamp on that side. Just FYI.

[MBG]

Nick,

I don't have any but check these out:

http://woodworker.com/cgi-bin/FULLPR...ARTNUM=121-595

[Tom Miller]

quote:Originally posted by Lonnie in Orlando

I permanently clamp a 4" splice (JW1019, or similar) to my DC hose. The splice is 4" OD on both ends.

Then I cut a 3-1/2" long piece of S&D pipe (4"ID) and slip over the splice, or slip over the DC port on each tool.

I found that with a little effort I can get the PVC into the end of the hose -- no splice needed. I remove a couple turns of the reinforcing wire from the hose first. Even though it's a nice tight fit, I put a hose clamp on.

Regards,
Tom

[ddamoore]

I like these from Rockler part #64512 - $6.49 for a pack of 5 - tightens without tools & holds the hose on tight.

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product...6&filter=64512

[eezlock]

dc connection clamps

Nick, you didn't say what size hose you are using...I assume it is a 4" size?
Why not try and get the large type spring clamps like they use on dryer vent hoses and slip them on the hose, squeeze the ends together and put it on the DC connector and it would be easy to transfer from machine to machine
as needed ? I think this may be the best alternative to other types that
require a tool to install /remove them each time you switch machines.
My .02 worth...hope this helps....eezlock

[LCHIEN]

...I bought some 4" quick-disconnect fittings at Woodcraft (they were the only thing I could afford at Woodcraft) that have raised ridges on the hose side so they'll thread into the hose end, and a slightly tapered outlet on the machine side that mates up nice and snug with the slightly tapered dust ports on my tools. Item no. 140259 but there's no 6" version listed. Might be worth some searching at other vendors because in the 4" size, these work extremely well.

...

I , like Larry use several of the quick connects


http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...ittings%20dust
these the 4" ones from Rockler available in either threaded or flat landings for the hose end.
Work fine but I have not seen ones for 6".

[John Hunter]

Has anyone ever looked at the quick hose disconects that campers use on the holding tanks. I think they are only 3" diameter but the principle should be just the ticket.

[niki]

Hi Nick

After all the "quick disconnects" I will say it quitely

I had the same problem with my 2" hose and I wrapped around the rigid tube (the one on the machine) a few layers of masking tape (or aluminum foil) till the hose was holding tight on the tube.

niki