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  • LCHIEN
    Super Moderator
    • Dec 2002
    • 21987
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #1

    need a new hand held belt sander

    I may need said belt sander.
    This is the first time and I generally don't use them.

    Lowes has a Skil for $50 and a makita for $99
    HD has Makita also $99, Ryobi $50, and B&D $70

    PC and deWalt and Milwaukee out of the price range.

    What do you suggest?
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
    If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
    BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions
  • Pappy
    The Full Monte
    • Dec 2002
    • 10481
    • San Marcos, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 (x2)

    #2
    Give up a few more $$$ and get the PC 352VS. Best belt sander I ever owned or used.
    Don, aka Pappy,

    Wise men talk because they have something to say,
    Fools because they have to say something.
    Plato

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    • LarryG
      The Full Monte
      • May 2004
      • 6693
      • Off The Back
      • Powermatic PM2000, BT3100-1

      #3
      Ryobi 3x21

      I have the Ryobi 3" x 21" model that retails new for $99. Bought mine used off eBay for about half that. I don't know the exact model number.

      Like you, my need for a belt sander is infrequent and this particular one seems more than adequate for my needs. And hey, if it's good enough for David Marks ...
      Larry

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      • LCHIEN
        Super Moderator
        • Dec 2002
        • 21987
        • Katy, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 vintage 1999

        #4
        so what's the advantages of a 3x21 vs. a 3x18?
        1.5" more straight, flat length, sandpaper lasts 16% longer between changes?

        VS any help?

        Anything else to look for? Seems to be a straighforward device to me.
        Loring in Katy, TX USA
        If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
        BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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        • monte
          ***** Windbag
          • Dec 2002
          • 5242
          • Paw Paw, MI, USA.
          • GI 50-185M

          #5
          I would opt for the Makita for $99 or like Pappy said. Spring a few more $ and get the PC. Both are excellent belt sanders. I personally try to stay away from Skil products.
          Monte (another darksider)
          Reporting Live from somewhere near Kalamazoo

          http://community.webshots.com/user/monte49002

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          • ryan.s
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 785
            • So Cal
            • Ridgid TS3650

            #6
            I have the PC and that thing is a tank, will last a lifetime.

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            • vaking
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2005
              • 1428
              • Montclair, NJ, USA.
              • Ryobi BT3100-1

              #7
              I had a 3x18 skill sander. Never again. I could not make the belt stay straight on a sander for more than 2 minutes no matter what I did. After that I would not bother with 3x18 at all. I now have the Ryobi 3x21, used to be around $100. Nice tool. There were also identical or nearly identical models from Craftsman and Bosch. Craftsman I think was made by Ryobi, Bosch was more expensive and had a removable front handle. I even made a mounting bracket for my Ryobi sander and I use it instead of a stationary belt sander (I don't have one). Generally, I use the belt sander as stationary or to sand decks, for fine work it is more of a shaper tool, not often used.
              Alex V

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              • Jeffrey Schronce
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 3822
                • York, PA, USA.
                • 22124

                #8
                Makita

                My vote is for the Makita 9910X. If you want to go VS then Makita 9911 @ $121.01 @ amazon.

                Much like yourself I don't use a Belt Sander very often, typically using VS ROS and detail sander. I only use Belt S for heavy removal from stock. All finishing done with ROS. I guess that is why I didn't get the VS. The sander has an excellent power/weight ratio and is suprisingly quite (thinking back to early childhood and my Dads Craftsman . . .that thing was loud!).

                If you want power then PC is the way to go. Just make sure whatever you are sanding is horizontal cause it is heavy!

                Re : Skill and B&D, well you already know what you generally get with these folks. I ran across one of my very first power tools, a B&D 1/4 sheet sander. It is only about 5 years old. I gave it a whirl. I am donating it to Habitat for Humanity.

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                • jAngiel
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 561
                  • Ryobi BT3100

                  #9
                  I did see a couple on the clearance shelf at sears, maybe $49. Not sure what the original price was though. I looked at it briefly but have tendancy to shy away from Craftsman. Just thought I would let you know though.
                  James

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                  • Boomer_01
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 79

                    #10
                    I have the Ryobi 21" variable speed belt sander. Bought it at HD.

                    I use all the time as both a belt and a stationary……it works well as both. But it is LOUD!!!!!!!! Use ear protection with this or your ears will ring for days….

                    Boomer

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                    • jarhead
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2004
                      • 695
                      • Boynton Beach, FL.

                      #11
                      I think the most recommended models on the forum were Bosch 1274DVS and the Ryobi BE-321. Both models are flat on top and can be flipped over to be used as a stationary sander or flatten the chisels.

                      http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuild...ges/h00050.asp
                      http://www.taunton.com/finehomebuild...h00050_pe1.asp

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                      • JimD
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 4187
                        • Lexington, SC.

                        #12
                        Loring,

                        I will place another vote for the Ryobi 3x21 variable speed. I ordered mine, a rebuilt, from Cummins for about $60. I have a FWW review somewhere at home. The Ryobi was the best buy. I think they also liked the DeWalt and Makita better but they were about twice the price.

                        A 3x21 has a much longer platten, the flat part that forces the belt against the wood. For that reason, it sands much quicker than a 3x18. The belts are also much more common. There are also 3x24 and 4x24 sanders but they are, again, much less common. The 3x21 is generally judged to have the best combination of "don't want to spend all night" sanding speed versus "wears my arms out" weight and power. Smaller is handier but you have to wait a long time. Bigger is more tiring.

                        The Ryobi has at least one advantage over the PC other thay price. It is flat on the back so it is easy to turn it over and use it like a stationary sander. I have no stationary sander so I use this fairly frequently. Works well.

                        The Ryobi 3x21 tracks well (not a given on inexpensive belt sanders), the belts are easy to change, the dust bag gets most of the dust (not a given regardless of the price), and it has adequate power while not being overly heavy.

                        Before getting another belt sander (LOML drove over my Craftsman) I bought a big DeWalt right angle grinder style random orbit thinking it would be fast enough. I was wrong. There is just nothing like a good belt sander (or even a fair one that is working right) at doing things like flattening a big table top. You need to develop the nack of moving it around enough it doesn't dig in but once you have that down, it is a great tool to have around. It is possible to do pretty delicate sanding with it but, at the start, it's probably best to use the belt for the rough sanding and a random orbit for the finner near final sanding.

                        In this tool, the Ryobi is closer to the DeWalt and PC than to the B&D and Skil. Ryobi makes tools at both ends but their 3x21 variable speed belt sander is one of the good ones.

                        Jim

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                        • DaveW
                          Established Member
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 415
                          • So Cal.

                          #13
                          In case there haven't been enough people saying it, my vote's for the Ryobi BE321 - it's handled everything I've thrown at it.

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                          • mschrank
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1130
                            • Hood River, OR, USA.
                            • BT3000

                            #14
                            Loring

                            FYI-Sears has this one on sale online.

                            While I'm not usually a big Craftsman fan, it's probably not bad for occasional use
                            Mike

                            Drywall screws are not wood screws

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                            • just4funsies
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 843
                              • Florida.
                              • BT3000

                              #15
                              I'll second the warning about the Skil... I've had one for years. It won't wear out, because I WANT it to! (Also because it spends much of its time turned off, so I can re-center the **** belt!) NO amount of adjustment helps. It's just POSSESSED!
                              ...eight, nine, TEN! Yep! Still got all my fingers!

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