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  • dbhost
    Slow and steady
    • Apr 2008
    • 9554
    • League City, Texas
    • Ryobi BT3100

    #1

    Getting organized. Making progress...

    So I am trying to get, and keep my garage / workshop organized, and have made some progress in that area that I thought I would share with others so that they might be able to take my ideas and improve upon them.

    #1. In purchasing power tools, I have decided that if I have a choice of the same quality tool without a case, or tool bag, and one with, I will purchase the one with the tool case / bag. I know this seems like not a big deal, but after untangling untold power cords, and dragging 10 various tools out of a cabinet to get to one only because you couldn't untangle the one, the tool bag / case idea came in REALLY handy...

    #2. Power tools that do not have factory cases, can be contained with the use of third party tool bags. My Skil circular saw and accessories, Black and Decker Firestorm Router and its pieces, B&D Angle grinder and pieces, and Skil jigsaw and its stuff are all now in their own little tool bags. This makes it SOOOOO easy to slide in and out of a cabinet it isn't funny.

    #3. Benchtop tools that need to be a sepcific height? Build a special bench for them. I did for my router table, and I stow the forementioned tools, along with my router bits, B&D Rotary tool, and rotary tool accessory kit in the cavity below.

    #4. Clamps. It seems we always need more clamps right? I currently have a decent collection of mostly HF Pittsburg clamps. I built a clamp hanger out of scrap bits of 2x4 stock cut 6" long and turned sideways. I predrilled a countersunk hole for a #10 wood screw on each side 1" in, and then center mounted a bar made out of left over 2x2 stock. The 2x4s hold the 2x2 far enough away from the wall to allow the clamp jaws to fuly engage behind the bar. With a 32" spacing between screw centers it bites into the studs and holds quite solidly. So far this is working great!

    #5. Workbenches. If you have a work bench along a wall, perhaps an 8 foot long one, SERIOUSLY consider extending those back legs up so that you have 4 feet above the benchtop to allow for a 4x8 sheet of pegboard to be mounted. That peg board can be used for storing all sorts of things like safety equipment, saws, hammers, whatever...

    A wall mounted shop vac with a long hose gets that floor space hog off the floor. The drawback is the wall mounted models being offered have small tanks, and the 1.25" hose. Maybe Shop vac will get a clue and build the hang up model with a 10 gallon tank, and a 2.5" hose...

    I may sound like an ad for these people, but honestly I have nothing to do with them other than I have purchased and used their products... I found a pretty cool cord storage hanger thingy called "Geckos Toes" at the Home & Garden show. It kind of looks like a comb sideways with bubble ends. You slip your cord through the tines, anyway, when you need to pay out cord you simply pull away from it and it pays out. I know not as fancy as some cord reel or something like that, but these things work great, they were cheap, and they don't take up much space. They certainly work a LOT better than the old hose hangers I used to use...

    Anyone have anything to add for tips / tricks for shop organization.
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  • Russianwolf
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2004
    • 3152
    • Martinsburg, WV, USA.
    • One of them there Toy saws

    #2
    another idea on the cords is to shorten all of them. sEriously, modify the cords to about 12 inches in length with one of the specialty plugs that twist and lock. Then have a single cord that you use for all of them (or a couple) it keeps the cords from becoming an issue.
    Mike
    Lakota's Dad

    If at first you don't succeed, deny you were trying in the first place.

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    • cabinetman
      Gone but not Forgotten RIP
      • Jun 2006
      • 15216
      • So. Florida
      • Delta

      #3
      What to do with tool cords has always been a mystery to me. I thought about cutting them as suggested, and then thought the plug union would always be on or too close to the work. That might also void a warranty if that means anything. If tools get used a lot and it's different ones, the cords do become a hassle. I've tried wrapping them on the tool, wrapping up in a small coil with a reusable tie wrap, or just hang loose. Wrapping up cords does put in some kinks that never seem to relax.

      At one time I had a shelf that I just lined up the tools and had a protruding peg above to drape the cord over one time. That did alleviate the kinks and the time it took to warp or coil cords.

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      • siliconbauhaus
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 925
        • hagerstown, md

        #4
        I was reading Tom Clark's ( I think) book on workshop furniture/layout etc. etc. and he leaves all the tools plugged sitting on a shelf at the workbench. I'd do something similar except for the fact my 2 kids go in and out of the garage for their bikes. My daughter wouldn't touch anything but I know my son would find it too irresistible.
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        • cabinetman
          Gone but not Forgotten RIP
          • Jun 2006
          • 15216
          • So. Florida
          • Delta

          #5
          Originally posted by siliconbauhaus
          I was reading Tom Clark's ( I think) book on workshop furniture/layout etc. etc. and he leaves all the tools plugged sitting on a shelf at the workbench. I'd do something similar except for the fact my 2 kids go in and out of the garage for their bikes. My daughter wouldn't touch anything but I know my son would find it too irresistible.

          I don't think leavin' them plugged in is a good idea. No need to tempt anyone.
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          • dbhost
            Slow and steady
            • Apr 2008
            • 9554
            • League City, Texas
            • Ryobi BT3100

            #6
            Yeah, leaving tools plugged in sounds like a bad plan to me. And I don't even have kids yet. I would be afraid of accidentally amputating a finger that way. I'll pass on that!

            Anyway, I don't have enough power in my garage to do that if I tried...
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            • poolhound
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2006
              • 3196
              • Phoenix, AZ
              • BT3100

              #7
              I am in the later stages of a shop re-org, I feel like its been going on for ages but I hope to be done soon.

              I try and keep tools in their original cases and make sure every tools has its own "home" and returns there as frequently as possible

              I dont like the idea of choping cords. extra connectors add resistance and more opportinity for failure. I actually like the ones with the extra long cords so there is no need for an extension and there is plenty of room to move around all sides of a bench. My Makita belt sander and Bosch jigsaw have especially log cords which I do appreciate.

              I am working on a number of redesigned shop cabinets that have multi functions. I am nearly finished a fliptop planer cabinet that will store the planer underneath when not in use and act as a mobile base for my drill press and benchtop jointer.
              Jon

              Phoenix AZ - It's a dry heat
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              • Tom Clark
                Forum Newbie
                • Jul 2007
                • 92
                • Deming, NM
                • Powermatic 66 w/48" sliding table

                #8
                Originally posted by dbhost
                Yeah, leaving tools plugged in sounds like a bad plan to me. And I don't even have kids yet. I would be afraid of accidentally amputating a finger that way. I'll pass on that!

                Anyway, I don't have enough power in my garage to do that if I tried...
                Gentlemen,

                What cord problem?

                It's pretty clear that no one uses my shop but me, and no one is in there except my dog - and he hasn't amputated any paws in the last ten years! The tools are left ready to go to save time when working on projects - and they don't use any power until they are turned on.

                It is a great time saver, but of course the idea is not suited to everyone.

                Tom
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                • cabinetman
                  Gone but not Forgotten RIP
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 15216
                  • So. Florida
                  • Delta

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Tom Clark
                  Gentlemen,

                  What cord problem?

                  It's pretty clear that no one uses my shop but me, and no one is in there except my dog - and he hasn't amputated any paws in the last ten years! The tools are left ready to go to save time when working on projects - and they don't use any power until they are turned on.

                  It is a great time saver, but of course the idea is not suited to everyone.

                  Tom

                  Tom

                  I hate to say this but if I had a mass of wires like that I'd be catching my foot for sure. Not that I'm clumsy, but if they are there, good chance I'll hook 'em sooner or later. Or, I'd pull out one and get three. That's my luck.

                  I've had electric spikes that found their way to an end, that end being either a TV or a tool. I don't have the option of surge protection on everything. But it's like you said some ideas aren't suited for everyone.
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                  • ksum
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 69

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dbhost
                    A wall mounted shop vac with a long hose gets that floor space hog off the floor. The drawback is the wall mounted models being offered have small tanks, and the 1.25" hose. Maybe Shop vac will get a clue and build the hang up model with a 10 gallon tank, and a 2.5" hose...
                    You can always purchase the larger hose and use it instead of the small one that comes with most of the hang-up models. Shop Vac produced a nice little vac that came with the odd sized hose. I went back and forth with them about how to connect it to the small table saw I had at the time. They even sent me a free adapter. Ultimatly I just went out and bought a 2" hose. It screwed in at the same location as the 1.5" and I noticed no apparent loss in efficiency. Of course, I didn't have anything to meter the results, but the support person at Shop Vac said I should have no problem with the larger hose. That was 2 years and many filled bags ago.

                    Karl

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                    • rnelson0
                      Established Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 424
                      • Midlothian, VA (Richmond)
                      • Firestorm FS2500TS

                      #11
                      It's pretty clear that no one uses my shop but me, and no one is in there except my dog - and he hasn't amputated any paws in the last ten years! The tools are left ready to go to save time when working on projects - and they don't use any power until they are turned on.
                      My father always taught me to unplug tools when you're not using them or you're reaching into their guts. If I spend an hour in the shop and 10 minutes of actually using the table saw, it probably only spends 12 minutes plugged into an outlet. I don't think I'd ever be able to get around the 20+ years of conditioning I have.

                      Not to mention surge supression from a lightning strike or a power surge of any sort. I'm guessing you've got over $1,000 worth of tools in there, even if half of them are used.

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                      • JSUPreston
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1189
                        • Montgomery, AL.
                        • Delta 36-979 w/Biesemyere fence kit making it a 36-982. Previous saw was BT3100-1.

                        #12
                        DB-, I've found that old bowling ball bags work great for tool storage. See them at thrift stores and yard sales every know and then. I used one for years with my circular saw, until I saw that my router case was dual purpose...and since the router was permanetly mouted in the table.......

                        I've been in the process of cleaning shop for months now, but stuff like projects keep getting in the way.
                        "It's a dog eat dog world out there, and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear."- Norm (from Cheers)

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                        • dbhost
                          Slow and steady
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 9554
                          • League City, Texas
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ksum
                          You can always purchase the larger hose and use it instead of the small one that comes with most of the hang-up models. Shop Vac produced a nice little vac that came with the odd sized hose. I went back and forth with them about how to connect it to the small table saw I had at the time. They even sent me a free adapter. Ultimatly I just went out and bought a 2" hose. It screwed in at the same location as the 1.5" and I noticed no apparent loss in efficiency. Of course, I didn't have anything to meter the results, but the support person at Shop Vac said I should have no problem with the larger hose. That was 2 years and many filled bags ago.

                          Karl
                          I have been looking into this fairly seriously, and I honestly see no way a 2.5" hose will connect. Not sure about a 2" or where to get one...

                          I am wondering of the 2.5" hose screw on connector is 2.5" NPT, if so I can always adapt a PVC pipe fitting, do some creative plastic work and create a down chute, mount it all up and be done with it. That would fit the TS, the planer, and hook into the PVC whole shop tubing...

                          So far the largest dust ports I have to deal with are...

                          #1. The BTS-21 table saw.
                          #2. The AP1301 Planer. (With those LONG shavings).

                          Then is the router table with the 1.25" dust port. (not super effective, but effective enough).

                          Both of those devices have the 2.5" dust port. The remainder is Ryobi and Skil sanders which use 1" ports, which means I need to reduce to that size from 2.5" (or 1.25" currently).

                          I know I would end up emptying the canister quite often, but that is a small price to pay when what is gained is more floor space for other stuff...
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                          • iceman61
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 699
                            • West TN
                            • Bosch 4100-09

                            #14
                            I also like to have cases for each one of my power tools. It makes it much easier on storage plus it's alot easier to move them to a job site if need be. Even though I keep my power tools in cases & use a cable clamp on each power cord before it goes back in the case. I also use these things on my extension cords & my hoses. I love them.
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                            • jhart
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 1715
                              • Minneapolis, MN, USA.
                              • BT3100

                              #15
                              Those cable clamps are quite nice and easy to use. Bought a few of them to try from HD and really like them.
                              Joe
                              "All things are difficult before they are easy"

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